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Jag Aquatics

Great job Dean. This will definitely be inspirational thread for me and many more.

Keep up the good work and waiting for the next update...

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SUSS8

I just went thru this thread and the whole time i was just like :O ...this is just amazing this really is BOSS!! lol

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northboy

Dean,

What are the sieves/caps called and where did you get them? also do they have various sized screens in them.

TA Bob

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Dean

so i have now automated the system and added a UV sterilizer and thought i would share how i did this.

what i have done is made it so that the tanks are doing a constant water change every hour of every day constantly.

each side of the room has its own 1050ltr water tank.

the cherry side of the room runs RO water with the saltyshrimp Sulawesi Mineral 7.5 and the other side of the room for crystals etc runs

RO water with Saltyshrimp bee shrimp mineral GH+

both sides are producing crazy amounts of shrimp.

first thing i did was to add another 6 bags of noodles to the sump just to help with the higher flow rates

of the automated system & i think there can never be to much media in the sumps.

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this is them in the sump with the other stuff already in there

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the RO unit

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the 1050ltr tanks on blocks to save adding a pump.

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to be continued

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BlueBolts

LOL.....all my tanks combine is equivalent to 50% of one of your water tank ! Awesome setup, awesome system.....

Northboy, I think Aquotix's online store sells those sieves/caps.....remember bumping into it a few days ago.

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Guest Benny

Overwhelming amount of water in your system Dean :encouragement:

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Loach

Nice setup Dean! Now for the individual tank pics :p

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Sprae

Man your single water splash probably overfills my nano tank! Can't wait to see more photos :applause:

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emboli

I bet it feels like a kid in Disneyland being in that room ha ha!

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HexaD

very inspirational, awesome stuff Dean!

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fishmosy

Great to see the update Dean.

There are some articles in one of the issues of Amazonas magazine describing how the Indonesians are growing shrimp in large tanks with either constant inflow of water or large exchanges of water. As in any situation growing animals under high densities, more water exchange equals reduced accumulation of wastes, hormones ect, which means better growth, higher survival, more production, ect ect.

As a tip for our newer/ less experienced members, look closely at what guys like Dean are doing and you'll realise the things they do are advantageous, arising out of experience, and are solutions to problems that you might not even have considered. There are at least three great tips in Deans last post, 1) water changes are key 2) gravity is your friend 3) more filter media is good. Shrimp literally live and die by the bacteria on media.

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doctr-dan

So your moving away from top up only Dean?

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Foxpuppet

a constantly changing water source is actually as close to the shrimps home as you could get considering they come from rivers/creeks etc where the water is always changing. love this idea... Dean maybe you could get into aquaculture with the waste water!

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NoGi

Looking really good mate. Now you just need a fish eye lens shot of the whole room :D

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Heavyd

How cool is this setup? Dean, do your shrimp know what a good life they have?

They must be really hard to catch for sales: "I don't want to leave here!"

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Dean
So your moving away from top up only Dean?

only on the system tanks mate, my 6x2x2 KK RW Panda tank is still topup only.

thanks everyone, i enjoy reading all the comments from you guys.

yes the idea behind the constant water change came about when earlier this year i lost between 1500-2000 shrimp.

it got me thinking about best possible way to reduce chances or bacteria and nitrate problems as the system is all running off sumps

so if there is a problem in one tank it soon spreads to every tank.

with the constant water change of 1050ltr every 30 days which is a little under half the volume of water for each side of the room, the nitrates which were at a constant 10-15 have been reduced to <5 which is perfect. It also saves me a lot of time having to do top ups etc as there is approximately 15-20 ltr a day evaporation.

@ HeavyD

i dont think they know any better mate, but im sure they are not happy when they leave :)

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Gbang

so awesome so awesome!

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Dean

So the following is about the automated water system and UV i added,

from the 2 separate water tanks i have hard plumbed each to its own sump, as 1 sump is used for each side of the room.

on the water tanks there are ball valves (see last pic in previous post) and then another ball valve just before entering each sump.

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this means i can turn the flow off at the water tank or just before the sump.

The reason for this is that the white irrigation line above the ball valve is connected to the float switch inside the sump which controls the water level to keep the sump always full.

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and also if i decide to flush through some larger volumes of water i can just open the ball valve to let if flow faster.

i also have a irrigation line connected to the main water line that pumps water into the room/tanks. this line is what continually pumps water out of the sump which completes the top up and removal of water, creating a constant water change.

low water before float switch turned on

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full water after float turn on

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i also hard plumbed a line to each sump for fast large volume water changes if it is needed for some reason.

these are the 2 pipes on the left. they also have a ball valve on them. the water is always pressurized to them so i just need to open the valve and the water goes to the drain.

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after all of this was done i added a large UV filter to each sump just for the added protection against bacterial outbreaks as i already lost many many shrimp at the start of the year to this..

all the needed parts

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i started by connecting the fittings to make it work with conduit, and reducers to bring it back to 25mm fittings which is the size of all my plumbing.

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i then had to try and find somewhere to put it as there is very little space under the floor and each section

with out a sump is only 40cmx40cm wide so placement is important.

didnt fit here...

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perfect fit

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i then had to work out where to cut into the existing plumbing.

original

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cut off

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reconfigured to new direction

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all finished

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after letting it run for a week i tested the water parameters to make sure everything is running smooth

and it was perfect.

EC reading

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As the water is always changing, new for old. i no longer need to test for anything in the water.

the only thing i monitor is the EC but only when i fill up the water tanks and ad the SaltyShrimp minerals.

there is never ammonia, nitrite, nitrate or PH problems because the water is always changing.

after 14 months now of using the Benibachi soil i am still getting PH readings of 5.7-5.9. using RO water and saltyshrimp minerals only...

no other soil comes close :)

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Trav80

Every time you update this mate it blows my mind. Well done. I think everyone on this forum dreams of having a setup like this one day. I sure as hell know that I do.

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Dean

thanks mate.. im sure you will love the next update even more then :) adding a few more tanks to the room :victorious:

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Sprae

Amazing work mate! Can't wait till you show the tanks with shrimps!

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Trav80

Did you extend the room or stick a rack up the middle? Damn, can't wait to see the next update :) I you need a hand just ask, can be paid in TB's :p

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Dean

@sprae. not much to see mate :) i prefer to show pics of a nice shrimp than a tank of shrimp....

@Trav, yes 2 more rows up the middle with another 24 tanks if i get a break over xmas to build it..

paid in TB's??? dont under sell your worth mate :) aim high lol will let you know if i do mate, but most of my shrimp room work is middle of the night to early morning.

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jrc693

Hi Dean,

Was just wondering, what does the UV do exactly?

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Trav80

Nice work, night/morning is the best time to do that kind of thing. No one bugging you and your free to take your time :) if you need a hand you just gotta call ;)

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      It is definitely more of a balancing act when trying to keep everything happy in a tank with Shrimps and plants, but don't be put off I think you will be fine. When putting the shrimps in the tank you should take hours of dripping to acclimate them and you may lose a few with the low Ph but I am sure it will work out in the end as cherry shrimps are fairly tough. If you use all RO water and GH/KH+ then the PH will always be lower even after the buffering of the soil stops, but this is the easiest route to go! If you go the mixed water 1:3 with GH+ the same applies but the PH will be slightly higher and will be cheaper (less GH+ and RO water needed), so overall this is the way I would go, and it isn't all that complicated once you get it up and running! As with JayC I doubt you really will need any ferts but if you must then use a lot less than the packaging recommends!  The best thing to do is just decide which route you prefer to go from the start as it gets so much more difficult to change it later? I don't have any issue with keeping shrimps/fish/plants happy and I don't use CO2 or any fertilizers so it is definitely possible and not that difficult if I can do it? I think that a lot of the plant fertilizers etc are really intended for plant aquascapes without any inhabitants but with fish and/or shrimps there will be natural fertilizer and the soil should have enough to start everything off? If you still aren't too sure I would just try running the tank without the CO2 or ferts (with the exception of as JayC recommends above) for a few weeks and just see how the plants get on, as you can start using either/both again at any point if they don't look like they are ok, but I expect it will work out fine. This will also give you time to mull it over at leisure? Simon
    • jayc
      You only need Flourish Potassium, as needed, in an aquarium. Potassium will be the limiting factor to growth in most aquariums. But with shrimp in the tank, I would dose it at 1/4 strength once every 2 weeks or more. Seachem Flourish for micro nutrients at half recommended dose every other 2 weeks in between the Potassium.   But !!  I don't believe you will need too much ferts in your tank. The type of plants and the amount of plants do not warrant much ferts at all. The waste from the fish and shrimps will be enough ferts, and if they are getting enough light a day, the plants will be fine without any additional ferts, except maybe a little potassium once every few weeks.
    • DEL 707
      O.k rethink. If I use that Salty Shrimp GH/KH stuff. Can you recommend any good fertilisers I could use for the plants? I'm not dosing anything at the moment.
    • DEL 707
      Not going to lie, this is giving me a headache. Just want a nice planted tank with fish and shrimp. 🤨 At the moment it looks like it have to either pick 1 or the other. Would this be a solution. Use Seachems Equilibrium and KH products to bring my GH and KH up to 4, then use that Shrimp King Mineral Fluid Double, to bring the GH up to 6. That would make sure that there are at least some minerals for the shrimp.
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