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I'm getting in early ;) haha

No seriously though, I agree with the culling thing. We all need to do our bit to stregthen and improve the quality of shrimps in Australia. But for me that's a long way off, I dont even let the thought of culling enter my mind as I won't have the numbers to even consider it for ages yet :encouragement:

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Giving may not be the right word LOL But I'm sure Robert and I will work something out.

I'm doing the same Squiggle and I agree with you. I hate having to cull but I was also slack on a tank of Sunkists where I didn't cull and the difference as

compared with the Sunkists/Pumpkin tank is quite substantial. So yeah' date=' I cull, just don't like it. And if a KK is only throwing 20% KK and 80% mishling I'd also

try a different male with the KK to confirm before culling. But yeah, if thats what she does then yeah, it has to be done to improve the lines overall. Its the

having others producing 100% though thats the hard part, and being able to get the numbers so you're happy to cull. With my blues I did a lot of culling but

only after I had a large base to select from, I then took about a dozen from the 90 or so I had and worked on those. The rest either got feed to my betta's

and some got cooked and then fed back to the remaining shrimp.[/quote']

Woah dude! When I say cull I mean to move them along to someone else to help them start there own TB program, I could never kill a shrimp! :dejection: I think that a "cull" shrimp like that is still an awesome shrimp for someone just starting out & there would be tons of people on here who would gladly have or even pay for a "cull" like that. I just couldn't do it to a gorgeous TB/Mishling :encouragement:

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Oh yes I didn't cook and eat my cull guinea pigs they went to the petshop without their pedigree papers. My cull shrimp were given away too! But if that is how you do it then so be it. A nice big tank of culls if you have the room would look good though:encouragement:

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My bluebolt colony has approx. 4-5 different genetic lines, and with an initial mishling program, for genetic strength, they bred 95% true BB at F2/F3. As the previous post has mentioned, it really depends on the initial stock, on whether they are true, or are from a mishling...etc. Totally agree, after 2 generations, if they bred true, then they'll be classified as a true TB. My BB are F7+ now, and totally bred 100% true BB.

MY KK & WR colony (individually tanked), started out with the same strategy as my BB, but with only 2-3 different genetic lines. After F3/4, I found the WR colour intensity lacking, and both my KK & WR in my opinion needed genetic strengthening, so I mixed some mishling's, BB, WR & KK into 1 tank to inject new genetics/bloodline. Although this is taking a step back to them breeding 100% TRUE, I felt I needed to take 1 step back, before I can take 2 steps forward. I will post a new thread to show the intensity of my WR shrimplets now, ONLY after 2 generations doing this. I use my BB culls for this, as they are ONLY a carrier of new genetics/bloodline for the WR & KK.

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WOW... very interesting read. Thanks Dean, Davin and Marcus. Learned a lot from reading this post.

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Check out those shrimplets!!! :encouragement:

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Very nice shrimplets dude, at first I thought this was just a pics of a CRS & thought nothing of it, then I looked closer & saw the two KK's & the WR, lol :victorious: awesome stuff dude :encouragement:

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Woah dude! When I say cull I mean to move them along to someone else to help them start there own TB program' date=' I could never kill a shrimp! :dejection: I think that a "cull" shrimp like that is still an awesome shrimp for someone just starting out & there would be tons of people on here who would gladly have or even pay for a "cull" like that. I just couldn't do it to a gorgeous TB/Mishling :encouragement:[/quote']

Sorry mate, but I do cull. It may seem harsh but if I'm trying to develop something in particular then it needs to be done. Have never culled a TB or Mishling. Yet! It may

be a cull for the main group but perfectly acceptable elsewhere. Alternatively some have ended up in my daughters tanks and we've then seen some great results. But

others, well I had some very happy Betta's for a while.

And yes people may be willing to pay, but thats not what its about. For me its a hobby, something I enjoy and I love trying something new. I have passed on 'culls' as

well but I prefer to pass on quality where possible.

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Nice! Beautiful to see mate, keep them coming, well done.

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Found a Red wine today!

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Makes me want to rip out all the grass to see what hiding from me.

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Found a Red wine today! Makes me want to rip out all the grass to see what hiding from me.

So when are you breaking down the tank? You need a magnifying glass mate and start working through it, never know what you're

going to find by the looks of it. Excellent

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You have certainly hit the jackpot with your shrimp Robert well done:encouragement:

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