No one thinks that you are starting an argument Mick we are just voicing our opinions based on our experiences. Hope you do have what you say though that would be cool. I am sure even the most experienced breeders can make mistakes like shrimp climbing over dividers and breeding without them knowing? Remember it only takes them a few secs to do the deed, the breeder not knowing that noticed they climbed into next division just catches them back into their original division not thinking anything of it.