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My first pinto

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in Taiwan Bee Shrimp - Caridina mariae x logemanni

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fishmosy Shrimp Guru

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Beautiful shrimp mate. Just wondering what the rolled up thing is in the background? Is it a leaf?

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CNgo2006 Shrimp Master

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Banana leaf?

That's creative. :thumbsu:

Dried banana leaves have been used for ages in the same manner as ial have.
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Dried banana leaves have been used for ages in the same manner as ial have.

Great, shrimp keeping will turn a person in to a gardener as well.

I've already planted mulberry, nasturtium. Now I've got to look into a banana tree?

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Great, shrimp keeping will turn a person in to a gardener as well.

I've already planted mulberry, nasturtium. Now I've got to look into a banana tree?

Grow stinging nettle leaves that is best greens you can give your shrimp
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Squiggle Shrimp Guru

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Not necessarily dude, the first pintos had stripes like this one from a German breeder. :thumbsu:

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Personally(& this is strictly my opinion cause this is a widely debated topic) I think TaiTibee is a invalid name as Tibee is a tiger crossed with a Bee shrimp & a TaiTibee is supposed to be a Tibee crossed with a Taiwan bee, which is essentially an F2 Tibee cause a Taiwan bee is a Bee shrimp just a different variant, Bee shrimp can be CRS, CBS, Golden Bees, Snow Whites or any of the Taiwan Bees. For this reason I don't actually get why it has been given a different name, it would be like calling an F2 Mischling a TaiMischling, just doesn't make sense to me #justsayin, lol :lol:

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I see your point squiggle

But it's more called taitibee for the tb as that's a big factor in pinto :)

I get the it's not a "real" pinto comment all the time

But to me pinto is a Taiwan bee with tiger gene pattern

Just because a extreme tb has hardly any markings they ain't declassified as tb that's something to think about

I would say that mine aren't the ideal pinto but they are a good start. I will breed the spots in to them

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I wasn't saying that yours weren't pintos, I was merely making a comment that pintos aren't restricted to just the spotted head pattern as was suggested by the earlier post. Also, the pinto name came about to describe a pattern not a genetic hybrid line, all pintos are from Tibees but not all Tibees are pintos.

I was also trying to make the point that the name Taitibee isn't a valid name in my opinion because it was just a different Bee shrimp that was used to breed with the Tibee & therefore should actually just be F2 Tibee. This mixing of all the Bee shrimp variants & crossing back to Tibees & Tigers was how the original "recipe" for pintos was discovered.

Whether an Extreme King Kong or Ruby Red is classified as a Taiwan Bee or not is a completely different subject as the extreme colour pattern has nothing to do with crossing genetics, it's just a different line bred pattern/grade of the same shrimp i.e. A Panda is just a different line bred colour pattern/grade of Taiwan Bee to a King Kong & same with Extreme King Kong, they are all a black colour variant of Taiwan Bee, same as Red Panda, Wine Red, Ruby Red & Extreme Ruby Red on the red side of Taiwan Bee. This is the same for Crystal shrimp with the C, B, A, S, SS, SSS, Mosura, Flower Head & Crown patterns, they're all still CRS/CBS but with different line bred colour pattern/grade.

Please don't get me wrong, I think your shrimp are stunning & definitely a long way down the path to the "ideal" pinto & I'm sure that with some selective back crossing you will have spotted head pintos in no time, you've definitely got the colour strength & depth sorted & I can't wait to see your progress, so definitely don't forget to keep us posted & whack up more pics as soon as you can, well done dude! :thumbsu:

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Hi sorry most of my last comment was aimed at the comment before yours I should of mentioned there name :)

I know all the tb and crystal grade I was just trying to put an example there as it was just missing some pattern :)

I will defo keep posting updates as I enjoy seeing all you guys pics soo yeah :)

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It's great for us to have pinto pics as inspiration.

The genes re there in yours, depends what pattern you want to work towards.

I dislike the term 'ideal' as it varies with each breeder. I love all the pinto patterns, skunk would be nice one day!!

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