newbie

[bobby]

hello to all the shrimp keepers here,i'm looking to start my journey into shrimp keeping soon

i'm thinking along the lines of a 45cm cube,using ada substrate,plus the powders,eheim classic for the filtration

up aqua led for lighting,thinking of red rilli's for livstock....thanks for the add

cheers darren

[fishmosy]

Hey mate, welcome to the forum. Rillis should be a good choice for starting out with.

[bobby]

thanks fishmosy,just having a little trouble talking the miss's into,as i become easily addicted to keeping the run of the mill tropicals

in a 4ft aqua one tank,but we have since moved house's & i had to give up my 4ft tank,that's why i thinking of only a 45 cm cube,it just mite

get me in the good books....lol cheers darren

[Squiggle]

Welcome to the forum, definitely the best place to be to learn about shrimp, ask as many questions as you like cause there's no dumb questions here. :encouragement:

Sounds like you have a really cool setup & some rilis to get on your way, well done! :victorious:

Hope you have as much fun here as we do!

[BlueBolts]

Welcome to SKF, looks like you've done some research, and are well into your way with shrimp keeping. :encouragement:

Enjoy the forum, we've got a great community here

[Neo-shrimp]

Hello & welcome to SKF...Happy shrimping;)

[K9932]

Welcome mate!

[mrguppy]

welcome to the family you will find everything here so ask as many questions you want if you need a hand everyone will give you one

[warren63]

Hi and welcome to Skf

[bobby]

thanks guy....only real question is regarding ada substrate,do i need the 5 different powders..? also how do u calculate

how much of the powders are needed..? also are both the soil & powder soil needed..? still in research phase atm

cheers darren

[newbreed]

Welcome to the forum, and the addiction, Darren!! Good to see more Ballarat shrimp keepers!!

I cant answer your substrate query, as I only use Benibachi, but I am sure you will get more responses soon!!

Rillis are a great strain to start with and they can have great patterns.

Good luck trying to keep only one tank, a good way to get past the other half though, once you keep and breed one variety it is really tempting to branch out. More tanks usually follow......

Look forward to your updates.

[Bunnybom]

thanks guy....only real question is regarding ada substrate' date='do i need the 5 different powders..? also how do u calculate

how much of the powders are needed..? also are both the soil & powder soil needed..? still in research phase atm

cheers darren[/quote']

Welcome bobby! I just love that name, it's sounds so friendly :o

Which powder are you reffering to?

The ADA amazonia soil powder type or those powdered water treating ones like bacter100 or penac W?

[bobby]

both types.....bunnybom.......i believe the powders go first then the soil,then the powder type soil..?

[Squiggle]

When I set up my tanks I sprinkled a couple of teaspoons of Benibachi Bee Max & mineral powder down first, then normal size substrate with a top layer of powdered substrate, HTH. :encouragement:

[Bunnybom]

both types.....bunnybom.......i believe the powders go first then the soil' date='then the powder type soil..?[/quote']

Yes, that's right.

You don't necessarily need bacter100, penac and etc. It's only optional and is up to you whether add them or not as they are quite pricy.

They are good if use them, but not essential:)

You shall use the dose that manufacturer recommend.

Similar phase applies to powder soil.

Normal sized and powder sized soil only differs in their granule sizes and nothing else.

Powder soil is recommended to use on top of normal soil and high of only around 1-2cm is fine.

It'll prevent wastes from submerging under the soil and produce ammonia under the soil.

However if you are using ADA soil, pls be careful of algae outbreak.

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As you can see from the table above, ADA soil is really high in phosphorus which can cause brush algae outbreak!

The ratio of N, P and K is almost 1:12:43 which you'll find really nonideal.

It's too high in ferts and frequent water change is recommended during cycling period to get rid of bits of ferts.

However you can balance this out by using ADA powersand along with ADA amazonia.

ADA powersand (special)S is recommended as bacter100, penacW and few other ADA substrates are added to this item and you can save moeny buying all those from beginning.

However DO NOT use ADA powersand with other branded soil as it's crazily high in N and K.

ADA powersand is made only to balance ADA soil and if it is used with other soil, it'll cause outbreak of spot algae this time :crushed:

It's a lot of headache using ADA soil, but once you sort other probs, it's really good for your shrimps :barbershop_quartet_

You can either go for Benibachi soil to avoid long cycling period.

[bobby]

thanks for the info bunny,next question how do u calculate,how much of each i would need for a 45cm cube...?

powders,powersand,soil,powder....etc the cycling time not a issue,would rather take my time & spread the cost out

cheers darren