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Hi all,

long time no see - I am sorry that my life has been keeping me away from SKF for some weeks! I am coming back with a question, and like to hear your statement and opinion on these questions:

  • Do Red Bee shrimp (higher grades) are result of Crystal Red Shrimp (lower grades) selective breeding, and do they have the same DNA?
  • What are Crystal White Bee and where do they come from?
  • How can we explain the emerge of Snow White and Golden Snow shrimp?
  • How do you grade Black Tiger in Australia?

Thank you, I guess this will be an interesting discussion :)

- Imke

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Wow dude, they are some great questions & I'm really keen to know the answer to them. :confused: With the Golden Bee's & Snow whites, I was under the impression they came from CRS & CBS, I have had some Golden Bee's come out of SS & SSS CRS & I've also had some Snow White's come from Golden Bee's. There was a discussion a few months back about this & it was put forward that Golden Bee's came from CRS & Snow White's came from CBS but there was also evidence of both coming from either of the two so I can't be 100% sure of which is which or that there is a difference in which line they came from. :encouragement:

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Hi Imke, Thanks for your post, and time out off your exceptionally busy schedule. The question you post will no doubt have many opinions, and create perhaps controversy, BUT I love these discussion and the scientific possibilities it possesses.

So IMO ONLY ....

1. Presume you're referring to PRL/PBL's...I think selective breeding no doubt plays a critical role, but I suspect TB's/Mishling's are part of the genetics/DNA.

2. No idea, and have not visually seen/kept a Crystal White Bee, so keen to get some info on them

3. IMO, SW is a mutation off the Bee Shrimp, and GB is a mutation off CRS, which is the mutation off the Bee Shrimp. Perhaps the "whiteness" of the SW, got muddled in the mutation from the redness of the mutation from the CRS, this a GB ?

4. The chart Hillary compiled was presented to SKF several weeks ago, and for ease of reference and international consistency, I would suggest reference utilising the grading/reference chart. Would truly appreciate your opinion, so that we can form an accurate reference for hobbyist in Autralia.

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There appears no certainty of information how TB's were created. My suspicion would be the X of the Tiger genetics to CRS/CBS, as several mutations similar to TB's have been popping up on Tibee's.

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4. The chart Hillary compiled was presented to SKF several weeks ago' date=' and for ease of reference and international consistency, I would suggest reference utilising the grading/reference chart. Would truly appreciate your opinion, so that we can form an accurate reference for hobbyist in Autralia.

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I am in contact with Hillary as she is working on finer modifications of her chart. I also have some opnions on the questions I asked, but am really happy to know what other keepers know by experience or think. As Hillary is from the US, she probably will discuss her new draft in another forum - I am not sure. Just want to advise her as good as possible. So, I am curious about other opnions on it! :)

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Woops, I hope I didn't offend her :encouragement: but I use dude as a unisex term, like actor, doctor & professor :victorious:

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I would have thought her name Imke might have been a hint:angel:

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Woops' date=' I hope I didn't offend her :encouragement: but I use dude as a unisex term, like actor, doctor & professor :victorious:[/quote']

Sure Sure...Nice save there mate! LOL!

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Dude is totally a unisex term, I call my chick friend dude all the time, it's just like mate :encouragement:

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I would have thought her name Imke might have been a hint:angel:

I'm sorry but I don't know German names so it wasn't that obvious for me, :dejection: I've been mistaken for a girl on another forum because of my name :victorious:

I'm very keen to see the new modified chart, I think this one is awesome but there are some dead ends. :confused: I'm glad this thread was started as I was wondering if there are grades for tigers, also I have been wondering if the colour variants of Tibees have any names? :victorious:

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Have we made you feel bad enough now:congratulatory: the tibees just seem to stop what do you do with them. Breed them with each other, breed them to tigers, breed them to crystals?

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Great question Shrimpsider!

And too make you feel a bit better Squiggle, I always get called dude and call others dude. I believe it is unisex also ^_^

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Hihi, I really don't mind if one does not know my name is a female forename - in fact, I don't care about being adressed as Mister or 'he'. In fact, even my bloody telephone comapny who sold my address to advertising companies called me "Herr" (which means Mister) ;)

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Hihi' date=' I really don't mind if one does not know my name is a female forename - in fact, I don't care about being adressed as Mister or 'he'. In fact, even my bloody telephone comapny who sold my address to advertising companies called me "Herr" (which means Mister) ;)[/quote']

Lol, stupid phone companies :stupid: Thanks Imke :victorious:

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