Jump to content

Mass Anubias Petite Deaths


clippergear
 Share

Recommended Posts

Hey All, I purchased several plants from a seller in London (I'm in the US) whom I've purchased from before. I purchase from this seller because I can't find the plants and mosses I want in the US. When I purchased before, the plants took approximately 5-8 days to get to me and I had no problems with them at all. This time it took a little over 3 weeks to receive the plants. I ordered several Anubias Petite, Java Fern Petite and six kinds of various mosses. I was concerned that the plants took so long to reach me but when they arrived they all looked good except for one bag of Anubias that had rotted and turned to mush. The rest of the Anubias were firm, green and looked healthy. I got all the plants and mosses tied to driftwood and got them into my tank. Less than a week later, several of the Anubias Petites started to turn to mush. The leaves became kinda translucent and the rizome was absolute mush. Within two days every Anubias (12 of them) was dead. Even the two Anubias Bonsai the seller sent me for free were mush. The Java Fern looks fine and the mosses look like they have some new growth on them. Does anyone know why all the Anubias rotted but all the other plants and mosses are doing fine? Could it have been because they were in the dark for three weeks? How do I stop any new Anubias from doing the same thing. I spent a nice penny on the Anubias and don't want to have the same thing happen. Any information or advice would be greatly appreciated!!

Some tank parameters. 20 gallon long. The tank was at the end of a fishless cycling process. The ammonia was .25. Nitrites at .5. Nitrates at 40-60. PH = 7.3. GH = 7. KH = 2. TDS = 230. I use remineralized RODI water. Have a light that mimics day and night. Used some Thrive-S fertilizer and liquid carbon. I used cotton thread to tie the Anubias to the driftwood. I didn't tie the Anubias too tight because the thread would break if I tried to go too tight.

Thanks.....clippergear.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I'm amazed that they were even sending plants from the UK at the moment as most places aren't even sending Uk to UK even. The postal system here is definitely in a mess at the moment so I wouldn't recommend getting from here again. I expect the post is affected in US as well. Some plants are tougher thaan others as this experience has shown? I'm amazed actually that anything surviveved that long in the post and dobt it was anything wrong with your tank or you. I have mainly Java Fern and mosses and suspect they would survive nuclear war, I can't kill them anyway however badly I mistreat them and am always giving some away to friends as it spreads?

You could try again but I wouldn't bother with gettig them abroad definitely, any time soon? I am awaiting the postal service to get back to doing next day delivery here so I can get some shrimps but I fear that may not even hapen this year, d'oh!

Just as an aside, I used to attach plants with fishing line, now I use glue, OMG would never go back to tieing when 1 dab of glue and your done, soooo much easier - needs to be non toxic/aquarium safe of course and is more expensive!  

Simon

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, clippergear said:

Does anyone know why all the Anubias rotted but all the other plants and mosses are doing fine?

How were they packed?

Anubias turning to mush means that it was exposed to extreme temperatures, either way too cold or way too hot for a lengthy time.

I guess it depends whether they were stuck in postage in the UK or the US.

What are your temps like in the UK and US?

Next time insist they put them in a styrofoam box.

 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

The plants actually came out of London pretty quickly. I think it was 3-4 days to reach the US. The plants were sent around May 8-9 and arrived to me around the first week of June. I'm not sure what the weather is like in London now. Maybe one of the UK folk could let us know? Once in the US, they got stuck in Chicago for two weeks for some reason. I wouldn't think Chicago's weather is too extreme at this time of year. I live in Florida and we're just now getting into out hottest, summer weather. But the plants were only in Florida for a day before being delivered to me. They were brought right into the house after being delivered. They didn't sit outside in a hot mailbox for hours.

The plants were placed in small plastic, zip lock bags. Two Anubias per bag and the plants were pretty big. Nice sized rizome with several leaves (8-12) on each. The plastic bags were then wrapped in a lot of bubble wrap and placed in the box. Like I said, I've ordered Anubias Petite from this same seller before and had no problem with plants dying. But, I received them in 5-8 days.

Edited by clippergear
  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

@sdlTBfanUK - I know about attaching plants with super glue but have just never done it. I guess I was just set in the ways "I used to do it". But you're absolutely correct it is really tedious tying the plants, especially the leafy ones. The moss is much easier to tie. When I try again with the Anubias, I'll definitely try the super glue. I'm assuming I just put a small drop of glue on the rizome and stick it on?

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

UK weather is notorious as unpredictable, we had 24C one day, next day 13C last week, drives me batty............... it could have been anything on those dates the parcel was this end??

I am a novice with plants but I doubt I would like being wrapped in plastic, no air/oxygen, sweaty/damp for 3 weeks, they were probably too far gone by the time they reached you. I am assuming you already knew that the rhiozone mustn't be below the soil but above it! I would put it down to simply too long in the post!

Super glue is as simple as, put a drop on the rock/wood (even damp wood) etc, press the plant (rhiozone, root, stem) on it, hold in place for a few seconds and its ready to go into the tank - it literally is that easy and quick, and as long as you don't overdo the glue it won't even notice (it used to annoy me seeing the fishing line holding stuff in place, but that is probably just me and OCD). You wont go back to tieing after trying glue!

Simon

Edited by sdlTBfanUK
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 years later...

That serious fish-keepers are always meticulous with regards to the item they will put inside the aquarium. Among plants, Anubias Nana is the favorite by most fish-keepers. It can grow inside your fish tank, and unattractive as a food for most fishes, making it a suitable and ideal plant for aquariums.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share

  • Join Our Community!

    Register today, ask questions and share your shrimp and fish tank experiences with us!

  • Must Read SKF Articles

  • Posts

    • sdlTBfanUK
      Welcome fellow UK shrimp keeper! I would think it would be better to remove the shrimp into the quarantine tank and keep them there whilst you treat the fish in the main tank and once you finish treating the tank and fish do a complete water change (maybe 2 a week apart for safety) before returning the shrimps. That would seem the best option though obviously the shrimp would need to be in the separate tank for weeks. I'm not aware of any medications available for ICH that won't kill shriimp and/or snails. With neocaridina they probably will just about survive 30 degrees but you are pushing it close to the limit! I don't believe ich affects shrimps.
    • ferret-confirmed
      Re-posting here from The Shrimp Spot forum as I need help. Help, 40 litre tank has a ich (ichthyophtyirius multifiliis) / white spot outbreak. We've been able to separate the few surviving neon tetra into an emergency quarantine tank, with appropriate medicine for the fish. We had done this as we had noticed the issue practically too late as we miss identified the white spots as cotton mouth (which the tetra also have). We luckily quarantined the fish from the tank as  the ich reached its second stage as most have matured and abandoned the fish. This has become an issue as even if the neon tetra do not survive the treatment, I cannot re-add them to the tank and I don't want to keep the tank's environment full of parasites. Thankfully ich seem to not be able to effect the shrimp but the medicine we have for them is toxic to the shrimp and the plants in the tank, hence the separating of the neon tetra. I was wondering if there was anything I can do to the tank while the shrimp are still in the tank, as removing them isn't a viable option. We've been trying to get the temp of the tank to 30C and leaving it at that temp for an hour, however the tank's heater is verry slow and doesn't seem to be going up past 27C. From what I've searched 30C should kill of the ich without irritating the bloody mary shrimp too much (too many websites vary their recommended temp, so I wouldn't keep it above 28C long if we were able to get it that high) If anyone knows if there are any ich treatments or methods of killing ich that are safe for invertebrates and potentially plants I would love if they could suggest one.
    • Moul1974
      For beginners and smaller tanks, I recommend glass aquariums because of their affordability and scratch resistance. For larger, more advanced aquariums, we recommend acrylic because it's lighter and easier to repair than glass.
    • becky
      Hooray! I was hoping it was molt but he hasnt progressed at all in about a week. Thank you guys so much for your help again. Ill keep an eye out. 
    • jayc
      It looks like the shrimp is about to moult.  I don't keep Ghost shrimp, so I'm not too familiar with how they look when going into a moult. But the white band along each joint is common in other shrimp when they start to moult.
×
×
  • Create New...