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On 7/16/2020 at 2:55 AM, jayc said:

Its going to be interesting to see what you get from those berried mamas considering your tank is a mix of Crystal Reds, Blacks and Tigers.

They are still small, but I located some tiger babies. They look pretty normal, but one looks like as it matures it might be a red tiger

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Crabby

Cool! I'm seeing colours on those I don't see on my tigers, so I reckon you got a mixed parentage there, nice!

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sdlTBfanUK

There are a few white areas on the one in the second photo so as Crabby says that one probably is a cross breed? Can't tell with the first photo as it is shaded by the leaf. Exciting times!

Simon

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Steensj2004
8 hours ago, Crabby said:

Cool! I'm seeing colours on those I don't see on my tigers, so I reckon you got a mixed parentage there, nice!

 

5 hours ago, sdlTBfanUK said:

There are a few white areas on the one in the second photo so as Crabby says that one probably is a cross breed? Can't tell with the first photo as it is shaded by the leaf. Exciting times!

Simon

These baby tigers are unbelievably shy. I never see them, meanwhile, the regular crystal and neo babies are always out and about.

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Crabby

Yeah, my tiger shrimplets are pretty much never out. I know they're there, but I never ever see them.

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sdlTBfanUK

The colour of the shrimps (or lack of it) means they will be harder to see than brightly coloured shrimp as well. Once you get Fancy tigers they will be easier to see? It is the same with my red cherry shrimp that have reverted to wild, when I look in the tank I see a few, but once I start digging around there are lots but being brown/clear they are difficult to see and I doubt I could even get them all out at this stage without starting the tank over, d'oh!

As they grow they will probably be more adventurous, so you should see them more. Also as the  population grows they will come out more I expect.

Simon

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Steensj2004

Tank trim and maintenance yesterday. Best I can tell, 2-3 batches of babies likely dropped, because they are effing everywhere. 4-5 more females also berried. Some pics for fun. 
 

 

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sdlTBfanUK

Great pictures, that looks like a very nice blue tiger, and lots of crystal red babies! Tank looks great as well, the sand area worked a treat. You clearly have it sussed now, always good to hear a success story!

Simon

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jayc

Congrats on the new babies.

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Steensj2004

A little update.....

 

This picture doesn’t even begin to show how many dang babies are now in this tank. I can’t even begin to guess how many, but I can count dozens and dozens while feeding.😳😳😳

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sdlTBfanUK

Great photo and thanks for the update! The 3  adults have different markings so the babies should be an onteresting mix. Its great to hear of a success!

Simon

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Crabby

Wowee. Nice going @Steensj2004!

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