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jojowhisky

Hi everyone,

Spotted an "off" colour amongst the fire red babies in my tank last night.

Is this a common occurance?

 

Looks to be light blue amdist the moss and dark blue on the substrate?

 

First batch of babies for me so i am just wanting to know more about colouration.

Have 2 to 3 of them currently.

 

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Zoidburg

I've had red shrimp turn blue when the lights were off, but after the lights have been on for a while, they turned back to red.

 

If they are actually blue shrimp, then I'd have to question whether you have fire reds or bloody marys. I've heard bloody mary can throw some wacky colors sometimes...

 

If indeed fire reds, not sure what the blue ones would be called.

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I've had red shrimp turn blue when the lights were off, but after the lights have been on for a while, they turned back to red.
 
If they are actually blue shrimp, then I'd have to question whether you have fire reds or bloody marys. I've heard bloody mary can throw some wacky colors sometimes...
 
If indeed fire reds, not sure what the blue ones would be called.
bloody mary? Hmmm they were sold as fire reds at the store.
That picture was them when the lights were switched on for 7 hours.
Interesting that you point out they change colour in relation to lights.
Below are some pictures of them.

Most of the babies are red, some are transparent, i think 2 are like a dark grey and than those weird blue ones. Maybe my eyes are playing tricks on me.

Thank you for your input on this zoidburg!

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Below are some pictures of them.

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**correction: meant to say the latest photos are photos of the adult "fire reds"**

Do they look like bloody marys to you?

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I can't say what they are and will leave that to others, but when you bought the shrimps were they in a single colour tank or mixed with different colours, so then the babies could be cross bred. Of coarse they may have cross bred before they got to the place that you bought them?

Are these the shrimp in with the red crystals in the 16L? They have very good colour!

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Zoidburg

Bloody Mary actually don't come out in pictures very well... but they are kind of translucent as they have red flesh rather than a red shell.

Fire reds, to my understanding, should be more opaque in coloration.


I have Bloody Mary from two different lines... and honestly, they don't look the same! LOL They are both red shrimp, but one line the shrimp are more of a vibrant rich red, and the others are a darker red...

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I can't say what they are and will leave that to others, but when you bought the shrimps were they in a single colour tank or mixed with different colours, so then the babies could be cross bred. Of coarse they may have cross bred before they got to the place that you bought them?
Are these the shrimp in with the red crystals in the 16L? They have very good colour!
Simon
Hi simon!
Yep they were in a single coloured tank when i bought them. They were sold for sgd$2 each.
Yep they are now in the main tank with the red crystals. I dont know anything about breeding but put these 2 breeds tgt because back than i only had bought this one tank and thought they would be ok together because they share the same red colour?(my stupid brain)
Will have to see those blues if they are truely blues i guess. Maybe if they reach adulthood they will have another colour?? For now, i think you may be right they have been cross bred when they were put on sale.

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Bloody Mary actually don't come out in pictures very well... but they are kind of translucent as they have red flesh rather than a red shell.
Fire reds, to my understanding, should be more opaque in coloration.

I have Bloody Mary from two different lines... and honestly, they don't look the same! LOL They are both red shrimp, but one line the shrimp are more of a vibrant rich red, and the others are a darker red...
I have been schooled again.
Thank you for the guide on how to tell them apart.
Sometimes i think the store owners dont change the tags on the tanks. They probably just restock empty tanks with livestock as soon as it is empty.
Saw like a blue bolt tag but it had red cherries in there
Bought the fire reds because they were pretty to look at.

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The Red Cherry are perfectly fine with the crystals as they can't interbreed, I was just a bit confused by the Red cherry reference early on and the Fire red/Bloody Mary later, wasn't sure whether you had both? I think I am all caught up now though?

It looks like they must be cross bred, unless as Zoidburg says they change colour for periods dependant on light? A nice shade of blue in the photo.

Hope you enjoy setting the new tank(s) up this weekend.

Simon

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11 hours ago, sdlTBfanUK said:

The Red Cherry are perfectly fine with the crystals as they can't interbreed, I was just a bit confused by the Red cherry reference early on and the Fire red/Bloody Mary later, wasn't sure whether you had both? I think I am all caught up now though?

New info coming out... Neos can possibly breed with Tigers, so by extension, may also breed with Crystals... although I don't know how a situation like that would come up...

Fire Reds and Bloody Mary's are a type of Red Cherries... Fire Red being a grade of Cherry, Bloody Mary a different color. But yes, very confusing! Jojo's shrimp were sold as Fire Reds.

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Woke up his morning and snapped a picture of little blue(could be him) in the main tank, this is the offspring of fire red mummy.
Is it blue or black, one cant be sure in the light. Is this gonna be a cull? Cant help but think it is too pretty to be one.
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Its difficult to tell the colour when they are young and it may darken when they get older as well. It looks blue but it could just be the light! Pretty though as you say.

It really depends on how you want to run your tanks. If you want good colour I think most people remove the odd/different shrimps and poor colour ones. This isn't a problem for you if you are going to put them in with the tetras as you will still see them and they are at little risk and will probably have a happy life still doing their thing. Neocaridina aren't able to breed until 3 months old so you have a little time to decide. If you don't remove the odd and poor colours you will end up, as I have, with them reverting to wild shrimp with little colour, or brown blotchy colouring for neocaridina type! At this stage I have about 50% red colour and 50% browns but it is in the tank I am little interested in, so just leave it. I expect all mine will  end up reverting to a wild brown type over time through mixed breeding?

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Looks like a dark blue shrimp... I'd honestly believe that you either have Bloody Mary shrimp or shrimp that have been mixed with Bloody Mary perhaps?

 

It's up to you how you want to handle the little blue shrimp!

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Looks like a dark blue shrimp... I'd honestly believe that you either have Bloody Mary shrimp or shrimp that have been mixed with Bloody Mary perhaps?
 
It's up to you how you want to handle the little blue shrimp!
We should just call them bloody marys from now.


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Its difficult to tell the colour when they are young and it may darken when they get older as well. It looks blue but it could just be the light! Pretty though as you say.
It really depends on how you want to run your tanks. If you want good colour I think most people remove the odd/different shrimps and poor colour ones. This isn't a problem for you if you are going to put them in with the tetras as you will still see them and they are at little risk and will probably have a happy life still doing their thing. Neocaridina aren't able to breed until 3 months old so you have a little time to decide. If you don't remove the odd and poor colours you will end up, as I have, with them reverting to wild shrimp with little colour, or brown blotchy colouring for neocaridina type! At this stage I have about 50% red colour and 50% browns but it is in the tank I am little interested in, so just leave it. I expect all mine will  end up reverting to a wild brown type over time through mixed breeding?
Simon
I guess we could have some more time to decide what to do with them.
Meanwhile, i just stare at the tank for hours. So entertaining to watch!

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