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Trav80

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Hello everyone,

I'm currently setting up a 3x18x18 tank for my cherries. I will have a couple of dividers in there so that I can separate my chocolates, rilli and blues. In each section I'm looking to have a twin sponge mounted to the back but instead of using an air pump I'm wanting to attach it to the intake of my Fluval G6 which will be running the tank. I will have 3x twin sponges all connected to the intake and thats where I'm getting stuck as I have never done this before with more than 1. I have attached two very dodgy sketches of a couple of ideas.

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Having the sponges running inline, Im a bit worried that the closest sponge will have more suction and the furthest away will have minimal.

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Having all 3 sponges connected to the same length and then connected into 1 that runs to the G6. Seems this will work well and give the same suction at each sponge filter. Issue is that I may have to use a smaller diameter tube and then increase it after they join up and it will be messy. Im hoping to have it all nice and neat.

If you have any other ideas on how to do this please let me know?

I'm also making a custom spraybar that will be 850mm long. It will be made from 15mm high pressure pipe with a T piece in the centre so that flow should be the same across the tank. I will have 15mm end caps so that the water doesn't run out the ends(duh), I will also be drilling HEAPS of holes along the front of the pipe and a few along the back so there are no dead spots of flow (no BBA behind the spray bar hopefully).

I also have a pretty cool idea to make some dividers (well I think so at least) and once I have them made up I will do a little DIY on them.

Any ideas on the how I would complete the above would be great as I don't want to commit to one and find it wrong and won't work right.

So get your brains pumping :)

Cheers

Trav

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honestly...?!

sounds like a huge mess you total flow will be diminished big time...

lets get to the nitty gritty .. a longer spray bar will slow water flowing out big time unless its tiny. which will have more chance of it being blocked..

the 3 intake thing i can see being a prob too as the filter will be sucking in a little from each tank.. unless you shrunk all the hoses down to a 3rd of the original size.(Factory made size)

you would also need taps on each intake to keep all of the sucking the same..you will also never be able to tell if one blocks up..plus you would have to put each one in a bucket first to check they area all sucking the same..

ok, ok... now

this could all work better if you just used a sump..

or you put the intake on one end,and the outlet on the other.. then just make surewater can flow throuh your dividers and add a sponge filter toeach section to to help filtration..

thats what id do anyways..

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Hi honcho,

Thanks for the comments. A sump is not really possible in this case. The dividers will allow plenty of water to flow through but i did not want water entering one side and exiting from the other.

I don't think the spray bar will cause any issues as there will more holes than standard so the current produced is no where near as great. I believe 1000 litres p/h will be far to much out of a normal spraybar.

To add to what I'm doing above. I will be using 12mm I/D tubing to go from the sponges and then using an adapter to 18mm(which I believe is the I/D of the G6 tubing), then joining into one and running down to the G6 itself.

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It should go OK, but just keep an eye on the sponge of concern, when it starts to block it will suck in or shrink a be, the solution is, clean the affected sponge.

I have seen similar set ups and that was the only draw back, OH and they ran you first design.

Bob

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Thanks Bob,

With the inline sponges I thought the suction would always be greater at the closest sponge as the water will always find the easiest route. This will be the easiest do I might give it a try this weekend. Finding a 3 into 1 adapter is not so easy for the second diagram. :(

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It'd be far easier to just run an oxygen pump with 4 outlets for the sponge filters.

It would also give better filtration having the G6 and sponges running separately.

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Agreed It would be easier to run them by air. Most of the time I use a couple of bigger foam filter in my shrimp tanks, the ones that have filters that is. Most are 60cm x 40cm x40cm with nothing, no filter no air.

Are you just trying to shrimplet proof the intake?

Bob

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Yes, trying to shrimplet proof the intake but also for the shrimplets to feed off of. There will be a couple oxydators running in there for oxygen.

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