Hi guys new here :)

Just wanted to show my first ever pinto I bred my self :)

Beautiful shrimp mate. Just wondering what the rolled up thing is in the background? Is it a leaf?

Cheers bud it's a banana left :)

Banana leaf?

That's creative. 

That shrimp is a stunner, hope you find more like that!

Banana leaf?

That's creative.

Dried banana leaves have been used for ages in the same manner as ial have.

Dried banana leaves have been used for ages in the same manner as ial have.

Great, shrimp keeping will turn a person in to a gardener as well.

I've already planted mulberry, nasturtium. Now I've got to look into a banana tree?

Great, shrimp keeping will turn a person in to a gardener as well.

I've already planted mulberry, nasturtium. Now I've got to look into a banana tree?

Grow stinging nettle leaves that is best greens you can give your shrimp

nice well done

Cheers bud it's a banana left :)

Thanks mate

Grow stinging nettle leaves that is best greens you can give your shrimp

Hi do you know if nettles grow across roots or from seed?

Awesome shrimp dude, very cool indeed, excellent work!

Cheers guys iv only had shrimp for about 6 month lol only had Taiwan bees for about 3 month lol

Just an up date guys :)

My little pinto has grown soo fast it's nearly at breeding size already it was born on 1st of October :)

Also been given another pinto from a friend :) pictured with my own bred below

I've also bred some more pinto red this time :) and also some Taiwanbees with pinto eyes :)

What u have ain't real Pinto, they are Taitibees.

True Real pintos have spotted :)

Not necessarily dude, the first pintos had stripes like this one from a German breeder.

Personally(& this is strictly my opinion cause this is a widely debated topic) I think TaiTibee is a invalid name as Tibee is a tiger crossed with a Bee shrimp & a TaiTibee is supposed to be a Tibee crossed with a Taiwan bee, which is essentially an F2 Tibee cause a Taiwan bee is a Bee shrimp just a different variant, Bee shrimp can be CRS, CBS, Golden Bees, Snow Whites or any of the Taiwan Bees. For this reason I don't actually get why it has been given a different name, it would be like calling an F2 Mischling a TaiMischling, just doesn't make sense to me #justsayin, lol

I see your point squiggle

But it's more called taitibee for the tb as that's a big factor in pinto :)

I get the it's not a "real" pinto comment all the time

But to me pinto is a Taiwan bee with tiger gene pattern

Just because a extreme tb has hardly any markings they ain't declassified as tb that's something to think about

I would say that mine aren't the ideal pinto but they are a good start. I will breed the spots in to them

I wasn't saying that yours weren't pintos, I was merely making a comment that pintos aren't restricted to just the spotted head pattern as was suggested by the earlier post. Also, the pinto name came about to describe a pattern not a genetic hybrid line, all pintos are from Tibees but not all Tibees are pintos.

I was also trying to make the point that the name Taitibee isn't a valid name in my opinion because it was just a different Bee shrimp that was used to breed with the Tibee & therefore should actually just be F2 Tibee. This mixing of all the Bee shrimp variants & crossing back to Tibees & Tigers was how the original "recipe" for pintos was discovered.

Whether an Extreme King Kong or Ruby Red is classified as a Taiwan Bee or not is a completely different subject as the extreme colour pattern has nothing to do with crossing genetics, it's just a different line bred pattern/grade of the same shrimp i.e. A Panda is just a different line bred colour pattern/grade of Taiwan Bee to a King Kong & same with Extreme King Kong, they are all a black colour variant of Taiwan Bee, same as Red Panda, Wine Red, Ruby Red & Extreme Ruby Red on the red side of Taiwan Bee. This is the same for Crystal shrimp with the C, B, A, S, SS, SSS, Mosura, Flower Head & Crown patterns, they're all still CRS/CBS but with different line bred colour pattern/grade.

Please don't get me wrong, I think your shrimp are stunning & definitely a long way down the path to the "ideal" pinto & I'm sure that with some selective back crossing you will have spotted head pintos in no time, you've definitely got the colour strength & depth sorted & I can't wait to see your progress, so definitely don't forget to keep us posted & whack up more pics as soon as you can, well done dude!

Hi sorry most of my last comment was aimed at the comment before yours I should of mentioned there name :)

I know all the tb and crystal grade I was just trying to put an example there as it was just missing some pattern :)

I will defo keep posting updates as I enjoy seeing all you guys pics soo yeah :)

Lol, all good dude.

It's great for us to have pinto pics as inspiration.

The genes re there in yours, depends what pattern you want to work towards.

I dislike the term 'ideal' as it varies with each breeder. I love all the pinto patterns, skunk would be nice one day!!

I'm working on it newbreed ;)