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Snow White (SW) & Golden Bee (GB)Shrimp

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There's been several discussion on SW's & GB's.

General views

1. Snow White's are derived from Crystal Black Shrimps (CBS)

2. Golden Bee's are derived from Crystal Red Shrimps (CRS)

3. Snow White's carapace is entirely opaque

4. Golden Bee's carapace is transparent or display "cracks", are are of a yellow/Golden hue

5. Snow White has black eye's

5. Golden Bee has red/orange eye's

5. Snow White is a higher grade Golden Bee Shrimp

There's still several speculations and debate of the origins of SW/GB.

I've been selectively breeding Snow Whites for 2+ years now, and my selective breeding program is focused on ....

1. Solid & Thick WHITE throughout it's entire body - Head, Legs & Body, with no cracks, and/or transparency.

2. Completely no carapace marking WHATSOEVER

These are my personal goals, and whether the SW are derived from CBS's, or the other general views mentioned above, is irrelavent IMHO.

9-12 months ago, the tank experienced a HUGE nitrate spike, and I lost several of my high grade SW's. Also, a rilli pattern strain started developing/contaminating my colony.

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So after some heavy culling etc...the program survived, and today the colony is recovering well.

Low Grade Snow White - White not solid, carapace marking, and transparent legs

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Mid Grade Snow White - White is solid/thick, no/minimal carapace marking, and coloured legs

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Low Grade Golden Bee - Marking on carapace, and crack/transparent shell. Body colour golden/orange hue

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Mid Grade Golden Bee - Minimal marking on carapace, and thick shell. Body colour golden/orange hue

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I have not achieved or seen what I would consider a HIGH Grade SW or GB. A TRUE high grade would need to be absolutely SOLID in all aspects of its head, legs & body, with no markings on it's carapace....and a macro pic taken to fully scrutinise it.....it'll be the equivalent of a PRL/PBL.

So that is the challenge .....

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Very nice shrimp BB and thank you for the information. I intend to keep Snow whites once I have collected all the main neo colour variations. Good luck with your program and I hope you do achieve PRL/PBL that would be an amazing thing for the Australian Shrimp keeping hobby

BB I assume you are culling out of that program but keeping and establishing the rilli patern snow whites?

Awesome write up BB, I can't wait to get my GB breeding so I can try to strengthen the colour & raise the grade, very exciting indeed :encouragement:

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Very nice shrimp BB and thank you for the information. I intend to keep Snow whites once I have collected all the main neo colour variations. Good luck with your program and I hope you do achieve PRL/PBL that would be an amazing thing for the Australian Shrimp keeping hobby
Thanks' date=' mate. It'll be awhile for a TRUE SW...I was close until my nitrate spike !!!
BB I assume you are culling out of that program but keeping and establishing the rilli patern snow whites?
The rilli pattern is with another breeder. The challenge is in trying to stablise the rilli pattern.
Awesome write up BB, I can't wait to get my GB breeding so I can try to strengthen the colour & raise the grade, very exciting indeed :encouragement:
Great, the more the merrier.....will PM you later today !

Just a query Marcus, Obviously these photos were taken with Macro lens therefore its magnified. How do we grade our shrimps then with our naked eye?

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Just a query Marcus' date=' Obviously these photos were taken with Macro lens therefore its magnified. How do we grade our shrimps then with our naked eye?

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You'll still be able to see the cracks and colouration, with the naked eye...once you've got a general colony, and start some serious selective breeding, then you'll perhaps need to view it a lot closer (i.e. macro lense...)

I saw a high grade!!!!! Found it online Check it out. Btw is there any copyright issues in me sharing this?

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Thanks for the information BB! I always thought the Snow Whites were a cherry colour, but maybe that's a Snowball? All these names are so confusing :p

And, lovely shrimp as well ;)

Gbang, that shrimp looks sweeet! Maybe you could put a link to the site where you found it, if there are any copyright issues? :)

Wow Gbang, that is one seriously amazing Snow White :encouragement:

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Prior to my nitrate spike, I had 3 beautiful SW's but never took any pics :-(, so as the rule states...."If there's no pics/proof, it don't exist ! Such a cruel and cynical world we live in.LOL

Thanks for the pics Gang, great shell thickness, unsure whether its the pic but looks like it has GB (orange hue) genetics through it ? Slight markings on the carapace too... Oh boy, getting fussy.

+1 BB what you have said about grading is very true.

I wish there was clearer info about SW & GB around as there is a lot of confusion about them (myself included)

I do not believe that GB come from crs and SW come from CBS, this might have been true many years ago when the lines were original

but with the shrimp we have in australia? lol i doubt it now as everything is so mixed and crossed from people trying to shortcut higher grades

by adding them to other lines.

The shrimp i sell are all classified together as snowwhite/golden for this reason. Everyone has different grading and ideas of what is what.

I do think a true snow white is exactly as BB described it :)

I have 4-5 white shrimplet with no black on them at this stage.... They came from very poor s and very poor sss CBS when they get bigger I will get a pic and post it and feel free to tell me what the hell it is....

Fussy is good! means you will breed the best of the best! cant wait to have these! but I think ill work towards my all time fav looking shrimp the orange eye blue tiger first!

What i heard was that you need to cross do this to produce a snow white. This might explain the confusion between the crs and cbs theories.

Gold x CRS = F1 CRS 'mishling'

F1 CRS 'mishling' x F1 CRS 'mishing' = a few mishlings, crs and golds

Golds x golds = golds and crs

Take those 3rd gen x cbs = F1 CBS mishlings

F1 CBS mishling x F1 CBS mishling = cbs, snow whites and mishlings.

Thats just what i 'heard'

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