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revolutionhope

Packed fish with little water.

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revolutionhope    424
revolutionhope

I picked up 4 goldfish for my daughter this afternoon.

I was a bit inattentive and distracted at the time and didn't think yo say anything to the young man who caught them for us; but in hindsight I think the fish might have suffered badly from being packed with so little water.

Anyone think this is OK?

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Will

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As long as the bag was filled with oxygen, and not just air. 

And if it was a short trip home, it should be ok.

Get them out of the bag asap.

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Cheers@jayc they seem OK.

They're now happily cohabiting with some endler hybrids and some crs and bloody mary culls in the lounge. My daughter has named them.

It's fun to have goldfish again I really do like them!


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Looks like one of them may have been significantly harmed. It's quite lethargic and resting in the top corner or at the bottom of the tank quite a lot. Its dorsal fin is rarely upright. Boohoo...

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    • revolutionhope
      Good solid advice@jayc :-)


      will

    • jayc
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