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Hi, Just after some thoughts on my little aquatarrerium, and perhaps suggestions for improvements/different types of mosses and lichens to try! Thanks ?

4th post down starts the carbonated water discussion, no need to drain the tank https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/88-shrimp-other-invertebrates/78015-how-do-you-get-rid-scuds-3.html looks like you just turnoff all circulation then add a liter bottle ... maybe after doing a siphon of the bodies add a second bottle for a second round if necessary... do it during the say with light on so plans are using the co2 and not 0xy... wont bother the plants just remember any live critters other then the scuds in there will also suffocate

Hello Community, what Soil do you guys keep for Taiwan Bees? I have Tropica Powdered Soil, and i cant seem to get my Baby Shrimps up. After 2 Weeks they die off over night. My Ph ist about 7. Can you guys recommend me something? Im Using Ro Water with Salty Shrimp GH +

ADA Amazonia is used by many, many shrimp keepers. It's excellent for Taiwan bees, but the tank needs to be cycled properly as Amazonia releases a lot of ammonia. I don't like Akadama as much. This is used for bonsai plants, so it's not as consistent with how it's made. Ebi Gold Soil is great to use. I have not personally used it, as we don't get it here in Australia.

Assuming you drain the whole tank, and have water no higher than the height of the substrate, than buy enough carbonated water to cover the substrate. Carbonated water can also be called Soda water, or Sparkling mineral water. Don't go buying the expensive stuff like PELLEGRINO. Just the cheapest bottle of sparkling water will do. You would want to leave it for a couple of hours at least. 75cents for this bottle in Australia. Just pour this straight into the tank. Enough to cover the gravel where the scuds are hiding. Any extra can be had with some whiskey, while you sit back and watch the scuds suffocate. CO2 injection from a CO2 system would just gas out of the water. You won't get anywhere near the same amount as replacing the tank water with carbonated water. But you said copper is working, so just up the dose. If you don't want to nuke the plants, than either remove them or do a water change after a few hours of copper nuking the scuds. Remember the more water you can drain out of the tank, the more effective whatever you choose to use will be, be it carbonated water or copper.

I'm using like said RO water with Salty shrimp. Only lava rocks. My Test kit says in the tank after one week it has about 7 pH.. Does someone use Ada Amazonia or akadama? What about Ebi gold soil? I heard of jbl scapesoil. Will do my research thanks ?

So, I've set up my first ever shrimp tank. It has been cycled and all parameters were good...until I put in some cholla wood. I had boiled it and everything but over the course of a few days it grew this disgusting thick slime on it and the water got super cloudy. Checked the parameters and the ammonia was at .50 and my cherry shrimp were huddled in one bottom corner. I took that stupid wood out and did a 30% water change and cut the ammonia down, but the shrimp didn't snap out of it. Waited a day and did another change and the test kit isn't reading any ammonia. Every water change I've made sure the parameters were as close as possible and refilled the tank through drip over a few hours just in case. I managed to keep the temp from dropping even with the heater off. They shouldn't have been shocked by anything other than the water removal, but I used an air tube to do it slowly so...yeah. They're still in that corner. They're alive and two of them, always the same ones, go foraging sometimes. I'm not sure what else to do. I've put some food in and they don't respond, I've kept the light off more, I've treated the water with Prime...I'm at a loss. Anyone have any other ideas? This is their 4th day in that corner. Edit: The parameters are 0 ammonia/nitrate/nitrite, 7.2 ph, 140 gh, 80 kh, temp 74 degrees. I have live plants with plenty of hiding places and the filter flow isn't very strong and I have an airstone in the corner opposite the filter.

Oh yeah I didn't read the slime bit. Simon has it perfect with his explanation of the slime and cloudy water. Parameters are looking alright. What size is the tank though, and what is the litres per hour (lph) that the filter moves? Probably unrelated, but trying to cover all bases.

Ahhhhhh pH is definitely way too high. You 100% need a buffering substrate for bees, with some driftwood as well, to get the pH about 6.2 or lower. I don't personally use buffering substrates though so I cannot reccomend anything in particular. Good luck.

Luckily (or unluckily) I don't really seem to have many babies right now. I am well versed in tearing the tank down from living in apartments where I need to tear down the tank every time I move. Last time I did it, there were tonnes of babies. I imagine I will still find a couple this time, but the reason I am planning on killing the scuds is I think they are out-competing the babies which is why I haven't seen many since the scuds really took hold. My plan is to catch all the shrimp, put them in a pail with an airstone as suggested, tear down the tank, remove all the substrate, clean all surfaces, let it dry for a day or so, add fresh substrate, let it cycle empty for a day or two and reintroduce the shrimp. For my plants, I plan to pull them all up, put them in a 10L bucket and let them sit in carbonated water while the above is going on. Maybe do one carbonated water change. If I still see any in the pail with the plants after all this, I will just dump them and get some new plants. Does anyone have a good quarantine method for new plants? My current issue comes from the plants I bought at a local fish shop. Would like to avoid reintroducing anything.

Articwolf you made the carbonated water suggestion, how do you use the carbonated water? How much, how long, what's the protocol? Thx

sdITBfanUK you said you used carbonated water. How much? How long? Could I use straight co2 and overdose the tank? I don't have a co2 setup but I cannot imagine how much carbonated water I woukd need to use!

So to let everyone know how the copper dose is working, we'll at normal recommended dosage a see live scud flapers still swimming like all is well. I'm worried about raising the level, gonna kill my plants. As far as cleaning and moving your shrimp EBC, there will be babies. Tiny little pin points. I spent 10 hours cleaning my shrimp colony. Moved them into a empty tank then fished out all the scuds I saw them moved them into another tank. It was a bitch. 3 weeks later I see little babies on my glass. All that work for nothing.

Okay, can I just say: Cholla wood is wood. That's all there is to it. It has nothing dangerous inside it. If you boiled it and didn't touch it to anything between that and going in the tank, it isn't the source of your ammonia problem. What else is in the tank? How much have you been feeding? Have you been dosing fertilisers, or a GH/KH + type mix? How many shrimp are in the tank, and how large is the tank? Also, ammonia readings of 0.5 are absolutely nothing. An ammonia testkit will measure ammonium as well, which is about a hundred times less dangerous. So the actual ammonia reading is likely 0.02 or something like that (just a guess). What other parameters have you checked? What were the values? That might help to figure out the real problem.