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So I thought this would be a good spot to post this. Im looking for alternatives to dry IAL leaves that have the same benefits as far as antibacterial/ antifungal properties, A stable food scource for shrimp and micro-organisms and ph lowering etc. particularly from native trees. Going to add to the list as people recommend others. Also any great places to buy Indian almond leaf. Im just looking for dry leaves. So far I've tried: Pinnapple guava. Cherry Quava. Native alder cones (Aldus glutinosa) Banksia. Eucalyptus. But none have quite darkened my water like IAL. Need something for my Bettas with the same effect. Also any link to pollution on leaves and how we deal with or avoid it (other then obviously collecting from a forest far from civilisation,) Hearing of people growing their own trees or just collecting in suburbia etc and it's fine, what's the story there?

Apple lead is *excellent* as a food. It becomes accessible quite quickly. I haven't accurately compared it (in terms of leaf maturity) with mulberry yet though but plan on doing this soon. Unfortunately I don't know anything about its properties though. I've found guava, peach, nectarine and locquat leaves hang around for weeks slowly getting eaten and taking longer to break down. I also tested grape leavea and these were somewhere in between in terms of accessibility and preference for shrimp to eat. Looking forward to others sharing more experience. Thanks for starting the thread! [emoji173] [emoji111] Will

I packed everything the same way from my cherries to my Blue Bolts. Before I used to send whenever but now I Stop during the middle of summer and winter but I have only been contact a few time about DOA and the extra have been enough to cover them but it could also mean some ppl didnt bother reporting DOA to me.

I'm using Dr. Tim's fresh water eco balance probiotic. I am only using it every other day at a very small dose. There are other additives I'm using as well -hopefully later this year there will be a write up about the benefit of using these products. The products are available to us here in Australia -even through a sponsor so that's a plus - anyway I have been trialling them for a few months and I'm very happy with the results.