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Several hobbyist have asked, and I thought I'd clarify the difference of Tibee & TB.

Tibee - Tiger x Bee Shrimp (i.e. CRS, CBS...)

TB - KK, BB, WR

There's many variations of tibee, depending on the cross....refer to pic, Left - Blue Tiger, Middle - Tibee (Normal Tiger x CBS)' Right - Normal Tiger, and Yellow Cherry.

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If you googled Tibee, there's some amazing x's being achieved.

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thanks, good clear info BB!

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Thanks for the info Marcus, a lil off topic but what are tigres like to keep?? not alot of info on them here, could you possibly do a little wright up?:)

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I'm no tiger expert, but have found them easy to keep, once they've settled. Experimenting with low & high PH, GH, KH. The tigers seem to have smaller number of shrimplets, and are tiny, in comparison to CRS...

pic of a tibee...only 2 shrimplets in that batch......Normal x CBS....more in proceeding batches but not sure on no's yet.

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Different regions keep tigers in diff condition, i.e. Europe Breeders - High PH, and Asian Breeder Low PH..... So as mention, I'm experimenting on both range of PH, to see the effect of breeding cycle, shrimplet %, Etc. Will post these in a few months, once I can compare more results....

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Just an update, managed to get my Tibee x WR. Curious on the outcome/pattern/colour. Sorry for the out of focus shot !

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Got a female Tibee with my KK and BB, but nothing yet !

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Tibee - Tiger x Bee Shrimp (i.e. CRS' date=' CBS...)

TB - KK, BB, WR

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Well explained, Marcus! Though I am thinking that Taiwan Bee and Tiger Bee have a DNA intersecting sec, and that Taiwan Bee perhaps will be defined as a special kind of Tigerbee. Looking at the Pinto color moprhs, these shrimp are only possible with Tigerbee spotted heads, while Red Bee spotted head will not give you Pinto when crossing with KK or Red Ruby.

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Thanks Imke, do you have pics of the Tigerbee spotted heads & Red Bee spotted head ? I haven't heard anyone in OZ that far advance in terms of selective breeding for the Pinto's ...sigh

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Okay, here we go :)

Pinto Bee - by Astrid Weber (with shadow gen)

http://www.bienengarnelen.com/inter_view4.html

Red Bee Spotted Head - by Juergen Moers

http://www.bienengarnelen.com/spotted_head.html

don't inherit shadow gen, are dominant when crossed with Taiwan Bee (as far as I know now)

Tigerbee with spotted head pattern - by Carsten Logemann

http://www.crustawelt.de/wbb3/board17/board20/user-zuchtprojekt-socke/p107667-projekt-socke-allgemein/#post107667

the photo was already posted in 2009!

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some awesome looking shrimps there, hopefully they come down in price in the near future so i can afford some :)

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Thanks shrimpsider...those pinto's are out of this world.......unfortunately we're far behind in that evolution of shrimps, in comparison to the rest of the world ! Awesome !....do they breed true ?

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Is it these in which mischling come from because I was wondering if it is how do u I'd the mischling if it appears like a crs or CBS to increase chance of getting tb or kk gene stronger? Sorry if wrong species lol

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wow' date=' those patterns in the last link are nuts, pity we don't have them here in Aus[/quote']

Patience is the key...there are a few hobbyist working on these variants now !

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