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Heat Sealer is a great tool to have when using Kordon bags to ship


CNgo2006

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Hey Guys,

Watching some videos I came across this and thought I'd share, the video shows how a heat sealer is used to make the most out of the Kordon breather bags. Some great ideas here, also with a heat sealer you can double seal the seams to minimise the bags from splitting. Check out these videos. For around $30 you can get a heat sealer online (fleabay) which will save you a heap of kordon bags if used correctly.

http://tedsfishroom.com/2013/11/23/packing-and-shipping-part-3-heat-sealers/

http://tedsfishroom.com/2013/11/24/packing-fish-for-shipping-part-4-kordon-breathing-bags/

Watch the other videos on his site as well when you have time, some good ones there.

Cheers Chi.

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Wasn't there the issue of the non kordon bags splitting at the seam?

The heavy duty bags can be melted for a bit before they burn through but I would imagine the normal kordon bags to melt pretty fast considering how thin they are.

How much do you trust yourself?

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they are meant to fuse the plastic together not cut through it...the guy has done it for a while, wouldn't recommend it if it didn't work for him. Watch the second link.

Yeah the non kordon bags did have an issue with splitting at the seams hence a heat sealer should do the job...

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Yeah, in the second one doesn't he cut up a 'heavy duty' breather bag?

I think that there is a fine line between heating to the point of sealing and melting and cutting, especially when the material is so thin.

Also weren't the non kordon bags heat sealed?

One way to find out if it works... Make up a bag, chuck a couple of TB's in it and then post it up to me :P

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I guess you must have just skimmed through the video as he used a razor to cut the bag not the heat sealer, he also used the heat sealer on the kordon bag to reseal "just in case" of course when using this you would check that it doesn't leak and you have done it properly before posting wouldn't you?

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I'm assuming the non kordon bags worked fine before they were posted...

The added pressure of getting thrown around in the post might be enough.

I'm not sure if I would trust myself to save a few cents.

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Sorry Chi, I have to put my 2 cents in, I work with commercial heat sealers DON'T TRUST THEM, we have failures all the time and that leads to fish fillets falling out of the bags at the customers end and that leads to returns and the heat sealers are double seals.

The breather bags are a stretchy plastic, so I can not see it working right, for the cost of the bags it is not worth the losses.

Bob

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Thanks for the link….didn't realise the newspaper with the double bag recommendation :encouragement: Learnt something new 2day :)

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Thanks for the confirmation guys just thought it was cool and might save $ for someone who does a lot of shipments...I like the idea of splitting the bag down the middle to seperate pairs, WP, etc.

Apparently Kordon website recommends that wet newspaper is used between bags when double bagged.

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