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BB x CBS Minchling results!!!


Gbang

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i never expected this to happen so soon and i've been dreaming of it for soooooooo long. but after getting some cbs minchlings and BB from Dean, with the use of benibachi soil, ro bee shrimp mix and oxydators. i finally have some KK and Panda fry!!!!!!!!

majority of shrimp are cbs and crs minchlings but at least 25% are pure taiwan bees. Parents were a BB male and CBS minchling female. thought i could possibly get blue bolts but i got kk panda instead, which i am definately not complaining about.

thank you very much Dean for all the advice and help. i now have babies :DDDDDD

the tank

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can you see them yet?

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mulberry leaf eating sessions aftermath

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how about now? with mom :P

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Great work Gbang .... exciting times ! It's easy when you have the right tools & advise....had the same success with the benebachi, salty shrimp & oxydator, so no doubt it's a great combo.

Converted all my tanks to beninachi soils 6-9 months ago.....Thank Goodness for that !!!...Yes, and thanks to Dean !

Doesn't it feel like the pressure is off now ! LOL.....can sit back, relax, and enjoy the hobby even more now !

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Awesome as can't wait too see them when they get bigger what sort of price would the babies go for cheers brendon

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Good stuff Gbang, they are some very nice shrimp:D i also like your setup are you using a chiller?

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i believe the cheapest price for kk and panda is $500 and $600 for blue bolts so far. expensive as hell but well worth it in my opinion. amazing shrimps.

thanks lachie, to be honest though it's a fairly new tank so the moss hasn't really sprouted yet. haven't needed a chiller yet due to winter but i will be getting one very soon now that summer is coming in 2-3 months...might have to sell some minchlings to fund the chiller

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as thick as my.......... jokes haha it's about 3 inches? i went all out. very very thick. but the shrimp seem very very happy :) benibachi soil

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awesome results Gbang, i really want some of these but will wait until after summer i think!

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well done!!! congrats and all that!

keep us posted on their progress!

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congrats bro, hope to see more progress! Great inspirations during dire times in my tank :( Hope they grow quickly and make it with summer a few months away!

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Awesome man , really want to see them

from this size already show such a nice pattern ~

btw , get the chiller ASAP ,my chiller start working in mid day already :encouragement:

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  • 3 weeks later...

hey guys here's an update. a happy one!

found two red wines in the bunch :D

all the taiwan babies are now around 6-7mm so they have passed the sensitive stage woohoo!!!

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Video (check it out on hd :D)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-QJVly0-Sw&list=UU6gJazb6V6pO-tWhh2v8Y_Q&index=1&feature=plcp

i still cannot believe that these pandas and red wines came out of a cbs minchling and blue bolt!

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They look real good bro :)

look at all the shells from moulted shrimp in the background of the first pic, must be happy shrimp:)

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They look great!! Especially the pandas and red wine. Happy to hear everything is going well.

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thanks guys :)

just don't forget guys. bee shrimp mix, oxydator, benibachi soil and super filtration!!!

that is what i'm doing for those success rates :D

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  • 3 months later...
but at least 25% are pure taiwan bees

Just a quick one, not being pedantic; pure TB's as in phenotype not Genotype right as the whole point of the Mischling stage is to toughen their genes up some?

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Yes I believe so. But to be honest I don't know much about genotypes and phenotypes. Maybe bob knows? I gotta do some scientific research!!!! What I have noticed is that the further the generation the higher numbers of tb babies if u keep crossing minchling with tb. Example. My f2 has produced approx 2-5 tb per batch. But if u look at deans thread he has an f3-4 girl that produced more than 75 percent tb!!!!

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Thanks Gbang, percentages are good too. It would be nice if a friendly geneticist took ornamental shrimp sequencing on a hobby so we could see what really goes on in there. :encouragement:

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Thanks Gbang' date=' percentages are good too. It would be nice if a friendly geneticist took ornamental shrimp sequencing on a hobby so we could see what really goes on in there. :encouragement:[/quote']

That'll make selective breeding and the hobby rather boring.....the uncertainty, discussions, and varying opinions are all great...especially the unexpected variations...although it would be great cheating a little and getting a WCE shrimp .....

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