Jump to content

Urent advice Dragon Fly Nympths


Callan

Recommended Posts

Hello all,

I have suffered fairly significant losses in my shrimp tanks and after stripping the tanks found that three of my tanks had nymphs in them. I have traced it back to some fox tail plant that I added a couple of months ago. It is the only thing it could be, because the only recent additions was some shrimp I purchased. I am know sure it couldn't be that. I am now concerned that they could be in my mosses and other plants and am unsure what I should do to treat the tanks and plants in case there are more. Cant believe my luck. I am starting to feel like I take three steps forward and four backwards. It is really starting to do my head in. I was just starting to increase my collection again after loosing some more expensive shrimp to a faulty heater that jammed on and cooked them. My CRS, CBS and rilli,s had started breeding again and now this happens.....

Any advise would be appreciated before I seriously consider chucking in the towel and cutting my losses.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hello all' date='

I have suffered fairly significant losses in my shrimp tanks and after stripping the tanks found that three of my tanks had nymphs in them. I have traced it back to some fox tail plant that I added a couple of months ago. It is the only thing it could be, because the only recent additions was some shrimp I purchased. I am know sure it couldn't be that. I am now concerned that they could be in my mosses and other plants and am unsure what I should do to treat the tanks and plants in case there are more. Cant believe my luck. I am starting to feel like I take three steps forward and four backwards. It is really starting to do my head in. I was just starting to increase my collection again after loosing some more expensive shrimp to a faulty heater that jammed on and cooked them. My CRS, CBS and rilli,s had started breeding again and now this happens.....

Any advise would be appreciated before I seriously consider chucking in the towel and cutting my losses.[/quote']

Daamn..sorry bout ur bad luck

Dragon fly nympths are a pain.. ive had them before and removed them manually and killed them.

Sorry i cant be of more help, but u gotta sit and wait, net them up and kill them..

Not sure if there are any chemicals that remove them sorry..

Link to comment
Share on other sites

That's devastating .... Take a breath/break, and re-start the collection..don't let this set back get you.:-) I know its tough and difficult, and most of us have been there, but take baby steps .... :encouragement:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Pretty much any chemical that would kill the nymphs will be toxic to shrimp.

You could pull everything out of your tanks and treat individually. A dose of condys crystals aka potassium permanganate should kill any nymphs or eggs as it knocks off snails. Just add enough to water to make it turn a dark pink or very light purple and soak your plants and mosses for five to fifteen minutes depending on type as some mosses can be sensitive. A really good check of the substrate for any little hatched nymphs and that should be it.

For some mayfly/stonefly nymphs in my zeb tank, I waited until they all metamorphosed rather than pulling the tank down but that only took a couple of weeks, and dragonfly nymphs take months to years to complete their nymph stages, all the while snacking on anything they can get their jaws on i.e. Your shrimp.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thanks for the replies and kind words. I will definitely try the condys crystals. I have stripped the tanks and moved the remaining shrimp to a safe tank.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hey Callan

It was good to meet you the other day & sorry to hear about those damned Dragon Fly nymphs.

Chin up - many of us have had the same sorts of issues.

All the best ;)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hi sorry to hear the bad news . Can anyone put a pic of these things up so us noobs can see what they look like? Cheers

hope it gets better . Daniel

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Dude, bad luck! I've have had nymphs before but luckily was only one and was able to kill it before too much damage was done.

Sometimes these things happen like my shrimp wipeout earlier this year.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hi sorry to hear the bad news . Can anyone put a pic of these things up so us noobs can see what they look like? Cheers

hope it gets better . Daniel

Check out the "Shrimp Health and Care" subforum.

The Diseases and Diagnostic or Aquarium/Tank Creatures 101 posts will have pics of dragon fly nymphs and damsel fly nymphs amongst other things.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Join Our Community!

    Register today, ask questions and share your shrimp and fish tank experiences with us!

  • Must Read SKF Articles

  • Posts

    • ngoomie
      Alright, I've done a bit more research on gentian violet's cancer-causing potential but I haven't yet done research on malachite green's to compare. But from reading the California propositon 65 document about GV (North Americans incl. some Canadians will recognize this as the law that causes some products they buy to be labelled with "known to the state of California to cause cancer", including the exact product I bought) it seems that the risk of cancer is related to internal use, either injection or ingestion. Speaking of ingestion, I think GV bans mainly relate to its use in treating fish/shrimp/etc. which are intended for human consumption, because of the above. And in countries where GV isn't banned for this purpose, it does seem to get used on various species of shrimp without causing any issue for the shrimp themselves (at least enough so for shrimp farming purposes). See the following: In February, the FDA Began Rejecting Imported Shrimp for Gentian Violet and Chloramphenicol (2022 article by Southern Shrimp Alliance) FDA Starts New Calendar Year by Refusing Antibiotic-Contaminated Shrimp from Three BAP-Certified Indian Processors and Adding a BAP-Certified Vietnamese Processor to Import Alert (2024 article by Southern Shrimp Alliance) Southern Shrimp Alliance and some other organizations have tons of other articles in this vein, but I'd be here for a while and would end up writing an absolutely massive post if I were to link every instance I found of articles mentioning shrimp shipments with gentian violet and/or leucogentian violet registering as contaminants. That being said, I know shrimp farmed for consumption and dwarf shrimp are often somewhat distantly related (in fact, the one time a shrimp's species name is listed that I can see, it's the prawn sp. Macrobrachium rosenbergii, who at best occupies the same infraorder as Neocaridina davidi but nothing nearer), but this at least gives a slightly better way of guessing whether it will be safe for aquarium dwarf shrimp or not than my bladder snail anecdote from the OP.
    • sdlTBfanUK
      I would hazard a guess that perhaps those eggs were unfertilized and thereby unviable? Did the eggs change colour, usually yellow to grey as the yolks used up, or any eyes in the eggs. Is your water ok, using RO remineralised and the parameters in range, as I have heard others say that if the water isn't good it can 'force' a molt? How is it going overall, do you have a good size colony in the tank, you may have reached 'maximum occupancy' as a tank can only support so many occupants.
    • beanbag
      Hello folks,  The current problem I am having is that my Taiwan bee shrimp are molting before all their eggs have hatched.  Often the shrimp keep the eggs for 40+ days.  During that time, they lose about half or so, either due to dropping or duds or whatever.  Shortly before molting they look to have about a dozen left, and then they molt with about half a dozen eggs still on the shell.  Then the other shirmp will come and eat the shell.  These last few times, I have been getting around 0-3 surviving babies per batch.  I figure I can make the eggs hatch faster by raising the water temperature more (currently around 68F, which is already a few degrees higher than I used to keep it) or make the shrimp grow slower by feeding them less (protein).  Currently I feed Shrimp King complete every other day, and also a small dab of Shrimp Fit alternating days.  Maybe I can start alternating with more vegetable food like mulberry?  or just decrease the amount of food?
    • ngoomie
      Yeah, cancer risk was a thing I'd seen mentioned a lot when looking into gentian violet briefly. I kinda just figured it might only be as bad as the cancer risk of malachite green as well, but maybe I should look into it more. I've been doing a pretty good job of not getting it on my skin and also avoiding dunking my unprotected hands into the tank water while treating my fish at least, though. Maybe I'll just not use it once I'm done this course of medication anyways, because I know a store I can sometimes get to that's pretty distant carries both malachite green and methylene blue, and in pretty large quantities.
    • jayc
      Can't help you with Gentian Violet, sorry. It is banned in Australia violet for potential toxicity, and even possible cancer risks. I thought it was banned in Canada as well. At least, you now know why there isn't much info on gentian violet medication and it's use. But keep an eye on the snails after a week. If it affects the snails, it might not kill them immediately. So keep checking for up to a week. Much safer options out there. No point risking your own life over unsafe products.
×
×
  • Create New...