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Hey everyone,

Anyone know the answer to the following

1. 2 x orange eye blonde tiger (parents blue orange eye x normal tiger) can they produce orange eye blue tigers?

2. OE blonde x OE blue. Will it give me any blues?

3. OE blue x 2. What % will come out blue?

thx

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They wont be pure bred oebt even if they will look it and cause trouble and confusion down the future genetic line.

people will buy your offspring and palm it off as oebt.

Its happening.

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I will look in my crystal ball for the answer?

Seriously anyone who could tell you the answer would have to be the breeder of the parent tigers and then not the %.

You should get bues from those parents, how many, dunno?????

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By the way' date=' some born blonde can turn pale blue as they get older.[/quote']

ninja, your blonde tigers turn dark blue when older. >_

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They wont be pure bred oebt even if they will look it and cause trouble and confusion down the future genetic line.

people will buy your offspring and palm it off as oebt.

Its happening.

How can this be true?

I thought OE Blue tigers don't breed true in the first place and is a recessive gene?

If they don't breed true then how can there be a "PURE" OE Blue tiger?

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ALL my OEBT's are selectively bred, and now about F3+...still producing blondes, BUT the % has definitely dropped. My 1st gen produced 30+% blondes, then 2nd gen produced 20%, 3rd gen produced 10% (1-2 in the batch).... As ninja mentioned, some blondes will turn blue when they mature. The above % is ALL dependable upon the oroginal parents/stock etc.....need approx. 2-3 generations to get some known consistency in it's off-springs.

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How can this be true?

I thought OE Blue tigers don't breed true in the first place and is a recessive gene?

If they don't breed true then how can there be a "PURE" OE Blue tiger?

Im thinking you are crossing oebt with 'normal' tiger.

what is your definition of normal tiger.

oebt to me is blonde or blue but has to have orange eyes.

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Im thinking you are crossing oebt with 'normal' tiger.

what is your definition of normal tiger.

oebt to me is blonde or blue but has to have orange eyes.

to make it clear

there are 3 types we are talking about here

A. normal black eye tigers

B. orange eye blonde tigers

C. orange eye blue tigers

My original question was

1. If i have B X B can i get C?

2. If i have B X C can I get C?

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Lol' date=' what about them?[/quote']

Where do they come from?

just found this on google!!!

"Its coloration is not selectively bred nor a mutation of the common Tiger Shrimp. It is red-striped in the wild."

Haven't seen one for sale in oz but I'm sure BB has one, I just have a feeling lol!

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