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My personal preference are solid colours ....BUT thought I'd get a consensus of the potential breeding of a BlueBolt Rilli .....

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with a Snow White Rilli

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Apologies for the s^!%$&*!( pics

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BB given that the Cherry Rilis are so popular I can't see that these wouldn't be especially if it has some blue in it. Worth a try:encouragement:

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I prefer the solid colours on the blue bolts, but that's just my opinion :encouragement:

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Wishful thinking BB, but I hope you achieve it anyway. You know my opinion!

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BB RILLI! BB RILLI! BB RILLI! I gotta say I love the solid colour BB but I would love to see a BB rilli as well :victorious:

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Regardless, I would be inclined to breed the two together just to understand the genetics a bit better. Results might be interesting or not interesting at all, but in pursuit of knowledge you need to have experiments that fail as well as succeed.

And once you are done and getting ready to cull, I'll take them off your hands ;) I do not have space issues and experiments like these appeal to me if you couldn't spare the space.

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You'll never succeed if you never ever try! He he!

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solid bb looks better but bb rili would still be very cool hanging along with sw rili.. if there is ever such things.. when will it end... never!!! :)

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i think with a BB rili they would look cool but if the price was lower then the demand for solid BB;s may be affected due to people buying the rili variant in an attempt to obtain solids instead from them.

Generally how many generations would you have to breed before they would breed consistant ?

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i think with a BB rili they would look cool but if the price was lower then the demand for solid BB;s may be affected due to people buying the rili variant in an attempt to obtain solids instead from them. Generally how many generations would you have to breed before they would breed consistant ?

IMHO, obtaining a rilli to get a solid is taking 3 steps back, and 1 step fwd. I have the rilli gene's in my GB, and they're a bugger to breed out ! I prefer solids, but any variant, as long as it follows the rules, i.e. rilli - with solid head & tail, clear body should be strictly followed, otherwise it becomes just a luck of the draw, and not done through selective breeding. Although, if a unique pattern is created, and breeds true i.e. like Pinto's, then that's great....beauty is really the eye of the beholder, so whatever the pattern, as long as there's a selective program to try to attain the specific colour/pattern trait, then that's fantastic.

The generations I'm not sure...just depends how dominant that particular genetics is, I guess....

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oh okay thanks for the information :), i thought that it would be easier to get solids due to the greater availability of them :) please forgive me noob comment :)

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oh okay thanks for the information :)' date=' i thought that it would be easier to get solids due to the greater availability of them :) please forgive me noob comment :)[/quote']

There's no such thing as a noob question/comment .... I maybe wrong you know...just my opinion ! :o

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There's no such thing as a noob question/comment .... I maybe wrong you know...just my opinion ! :o

you could never be wrong! :P

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