Mishling question

[Squiggle]

Just wondering if it matters what grade of CRS or CBS you use to make mishlings? Could you cross a tibee with a C grade CRS & get the same results as using a SSS?

[BlueBolts]

Theoretically, mishlings with a particular grade pattern, can inherit it's geno markings through to the TB. So creating a Mosura pattern BB, is genetically more feasible with a Mosura grade shrimp. Ditto on no entry ...etc.

The TB genetics is unusual, and I don't think using a CRS/CBS, makes any difference...IMHO.

[Squiggle]

So in theory, if you used a C grade CRS/CBS you would get less white & more blue in a BB? Or would it be the opposite way round & what would be the outcome for KK's, Pandas, WR's & RR's? Also, can you use GBs & SWs for a Mishling starter? Also if you used lower grades to start Mishlings, would they be genetically more stable or same same?

[Squiggle]

Nice pics by the way BB! Stunning shrimp dude, :encouragement: are they yours?

[ineke]

Gosh Squiggle are you done LOL poor BB that was 1001 questions but very interesting!

[Squiggle]

The question are open to anyone who can answer them *cough Dean* *cough BB* I'm just trying to get my head around the Mishling phenomenon :dejection: & how using lower grade CRS/CBS would effect the outcome of the breeding program & also later down the F line. :victorious: Yes I may be asking a few questions but you're the queen of questions Ineke, lol :encouragement: & these questions have been floating round my head for a few days now & I just had to ask :victorious: As they say, it's not the answer that wins the Nobel Prize, it's the question that started you on the path. Ooohh look, I've gone all philosophical, I think I need a beer, lol :stupid:

[BlueBolts]

IMO, the TB genetics is unique, their genetics is extremely strong, and mishlings are created theoretically as a surrogate, then through intense selective breeding, the "patterns" of CRS's may eventually come through....I've not heard or know any breeder selectively breeding say a HINO KK for example.....and their proceeding generations, carrying this trait.....for me, it just happens. In fact my last KK/Panda, produced 2 x no entry KK's....no idea where that came from... It just happened.

[Squiggle]

So does that mean, in theory, you can use any Caridina Cantonensis as a "surrogate" for the TB genetics?

[ineke]

The question are open to anyone who can answer them *cough Dean* *cough BB* I'm just trying to get my head around the Mishling phenomenon :dejection: & how using lower grade CRS/CBS would effect the outcome of the breeding program & also later down the F line. :victorious: Yes I may be asking a few questions but you're the queen of questions Ineke' date=' lol :encouragement: & these questions have been floating round my head for a few days now & I just had to ask :victorious: As they say, it's not the answer that wins the Nobel Prize, it's the question that started you on the path. Ooohh look, I've gone all philosophical, I think I need a beer, lol :stupid:[/quote']

I'm still trying to work out what's what are Taiwan bees in the crystal bee family and where does a tiger come in and what about the tibee I'm lost and confused but I really really want to know! And then don't get me started about mishlings glory be I'm out in the wilderness and feel all alone. So please go on asking I might get some answers too! ( am I still the queen.?)

[Squiggle]

I'm still a little in the dark about the Tibee, Taiwan Bee & Tiger stuff too :confused:

[ineke]

I've tried google but that just confuses me more. It would be great to have info on each individual type and then how crossing them produces which hybrid.i was under the impression that the Taiwan bee was related to or same genus as the crystal bee.

[BlueBolts]

TB is a guarded secrete by the creators, so not sure of their creation... There are some evidence of TB being selectively breed from Tiger ? But no idea.... My knowledge is from TB onwards ...had to just accept it, otherwise it'll send us all crazy.....lots of rumours etc, but no real hard evidence. There are some wild tigers, so selective breeding has created the variations etc... From my understanding, not all Caridina Cantonensis can breed with each other.... Remembered reading abiut it somewhere ..... Sorry for the lack of info.... The mystery continues

[ineke]

Thanks BB no wonder I can't understand it

[Squiggle]

You've more than answered most of my questions BB, Ineke & I have probably melted your brain with question overload, thanks heaps for clearing a lot of it up, maybe Dean or Shrimpster can help out with some info too, I'm sure you've already covered a lot of what they know too. Thanks heaps BB, your knowledge is priceless :encouragement: