Help with KK / pandas.

[aaron.gill.01]

I'm going well keeping Tb shrimp. But am struggling with KK and pandas. What ever I buy / receive I seam to struggle to keep them past a week. All my other shrimp have pinto gene or are blue bolts! Any tricks to help me with the little fellas?

[ineke]

If you can keep Blue Bolts you shouldn't have any issues with Panda and KK they are all TB after all. If you can put up your WP's  we might pick up something not quite right . Do you acclimatise your shrimp by dripping over several hours?  Temperature is another issue along with your other WP's . Deaths that quick are often water related . Your shrimp may have gotten used to your WP's over a period of time , if they are a long way out from recommended parameters then the new shrimp could be shocked 

Have  you been buying from different breeders or have the ones that died been from the same breeder? 

[newbreed]

Definitely some tank parameters will be a big help @aaron.gill.01!!

sure we will be able to help you keep this successfully mate.

[aaron.gill.01]

The only ones I've been able to follow at the moment is pH 6.8 -7 and waiting on a tds pen to do a measurement, they might be a little high, but I thought that might be acceptable. For example how a soft water fish can adapt to a harder water. I use scrubbers for nitrates and ammonia ( carried this over from fish, cheaper to prevent than test all the time). Water temp is 24-25. Would prime be an issue when water doing changes? 2 separate sellers aswell. But blue bolts have also come from both sellers. It's a full planted tank, 20% water changes every 2nd / 3rd day. Sorry can't give you hard numbers. I'll work on that for now. Might be my problems. Just was doing reading and noticed alot of.people mentioning poor genetics in these particular shrimp. Any truth to that?

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[Jo]

Even without the water parameter tests, I'd say your water changes are going to be a big part of them problem. 

For a TB tank I believe you should only be changing 10-15%% of the water at a time, and the water you're adding would be drip-fed, not poured in all in one go.  (Ideally, using re-mineralised RO to avoid anything nasty in your tap water that might kill off the shrimp).  If you're changing water more frequently than once a week for any reason then there's likely to be other parameters in your tank requiring this water change that the new shrimp don't like. 

Also, I'm not 100% sure but I think the temperature is a little high for TBs.  I keep mine below 23.

But that's all just my 2c from what you've been able to tell us so far.  If you can get an ammonia/nitrate/TDS readings that'd help us help you some more :)

[aaron.gill.01]

Even without the water parameter tests, I'd say your water changes are going to be a big part of them problem. 

For a TB tank I believe you should only be changing 10-15%% of the water at a time, and the water you're adding would be drip-fed, not poured in all in one go.  (Ideally, using re-mineralised RO to avoid anything nasty in your tap water that might kill off the shrimp).  If you're changing water more frequently than once a week for any reason then there's likely to be other parameters in your tank requiring this water change that the new shrimp don't like. 

Also, I'm not 100% sure but I think the temperature is a little high for TBs.  I keep mine below 23.

But that's all just my 2c from what you've been able to tell us so far.  If you can get an ammonia/nitrate/TDS readings that'd help us help you some more :)

I'll change my water changing methods then lol. At the moment am pretty much adding it in one go.

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[Kaylenna]

On 5/1/2016 at 10:02 PM, aaron.gill.01 said:

It's a full planted tank, 20% water changes every 2nd / 3rd day.

Out of curiosity, why are you doing that much that often?  (I don't have much experience with TBs, but that sure sounds like a lot!