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supermansteve32

Hi, I have Crystal red shrimp and I successfully raised and bred them in a 15 gallon tank but after I moved them to a larger 60 gallon tank they all slowly die off.  I started off with the 30 I had in my other tank (which all died), but I guess I didn't wait for it to cycle.  I bought 10 more a few months later and now I'm on 10 more after that.  these are dying now too.  I change my water 30% every week.  The only difference from this tank and the previous tank is the filter and driftwood.  The old tank had an over the back filter, this one has a Fluval 106. The other one had some driftwood (not sure what kind), this one has Malasian Driftwood.  I'm not sure why they're dying.  I've added and propeller, a splash bar, a micro filter for intake, O2, everything I can think of.  Please help

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jayc
3 hours ago, supermansteve32 said:

I change my water 30% every week.

A bit too much. Try 10% weekly.

But we are getting ahead of ourselves.

I order for us to make an informed decision and give you accurate suggestions, we need to know what water parameters you have in your tank.

Temp

pH

GH

KH 

TDS

Ammonia

Nitrate

 

3 hours ago, supermansteve32 said:

I've added and propeller

What sort of propeller? Is it shrimp proof?

 

3 hours ago, supermansteve32 said:

but I guess I didn't wait for it to cycle

This is the biggest cause of shrimp deaths. An improperly cycled tank that still has ammonia.

The ammonia and nitrate tests above will help us confirm if your tank has cycled.

Just leaving a tank to run for 1 week or 2 weeks, or even 4 weeks does not mean it has cycled.

Beneficial bacteria is a living thing. It needs food (ammonia), oxygen, and warmth (27-28 deg C).

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sdlTBfanUK
6 hours ago, jayc said:

A bit too much. Try 10% weekly.

But we are getting ahead of ourselves.

I order for us to make an informed decision and give you accurate suggestions, we need to know what water parameters you have in your tank.

Temp

pH

GH

KH 

TDS

Ammonia

Nitrate

 

What sort of propeller? Is it shrimp proof?

 

This is the biggest cause of shrimp deaths. An improperly cycled tank that still has ammonia.

The ammonia and nitrate tests above will help us confirm if your tank has cycled.

Just leaving a tank to run for 1 week or 2 weeks, or even 4 weeks does not mean it has cycled.

Beneficial bacteria is a living thing. It needs food (ammonia), oxygen, and warmth (27-28 deg C).

One other thing it would be good to know, what water source are you using as if you have moved that may be different, unless it is RO then obviously you will be ok?

Simon

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Zoidburg

What has been mentioned - we need to know water parameters, including the substrate you are using.

 

Without those things, we can't be of much help. Liquid test kits will be more accurate than test strips, too.

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supermansteve32

Thanks guys,  I'll have to get back to you on all the water parameters.  I won't be home until Sunday.  To answer some of your questions: no the propeller is not shrimp proof but it is at the top of the tank, perhaps I'll need to put some sponge around the intake.  My substrate is 2 of Fluval Plant and Shrimp Stratum, 8.8-Pound.  I am using RO water remineralized with Salty Shrimp GH KH.  Last time I checked my pH, ammonia, nitrate, gh, kh were all in normal parameters.  I don't feed them much.  my old tank I never fed them and they were fine.

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sdlTBfanUK
6 hours ago, sdlTBfanUK said:

One other thing it would be good to know, what water source are you using as if you have moved that may be different, unless it is RO then obviously you will be ok?

Simon

That's me out then.......you can't go wrong with mineralised RO water! Over to JayC and Zoidburg, if anyone can help it will be them.

Simon

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supermansteve32

Hello again. sorry I forgot to mention what kind of propeller I installed. It is titled 530 GPH circulation power head pump.  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00YYIHGXS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

not sure if I'm allowed to paste a link here or not.  I installed it because there wasn't a lot of water flow at the bottom. 

I also had another question that you all may help with.  Is there a specific depth of an aquarium that CRS can't tolerate?  My 60 gallon I have now is a little deeper than my successful 15 gallon, so I wasn't sure if they could handle the water pressure. thanks everyone.

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jayc
48 minutes ago, supermansteve32 said:

It is titled 530 GPH circulation power head pump.

That's what I pictured in my head. That's why I asked if it was shrimp-proofed. If you don't block it off, shrimp will get sucked into it.

And shrimp prefer calm waters, rather than the high flow areas.

50 minutes ago, supermansteve32 said:

not sure if I'm allowed to paste a link here or not.

That's fine, especially to illustrate what you were referring to.

 

51 minutes ago, supermansteve32 said:

Is there a specific depth of an aquarium that CRS can't tolerate?  My 60 gallon I have now is a little deeper than my successful 15 gallon, so I wasn't sure if they could handle the water pressure.

That's not an issue for shrimp. 

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Zoidburg

Was Fluval used in the previous tank?

If you are using Fluval (not that I'd recommend it), you need a GH only remineralizer - no KH.

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On 11/30/2018 at 4:53 PM, supermansteve32 said:

 I am using RO water remineralized with Salty Shrimp GH KH.

gh kh is for neocaridina shrimps!!!!

Test your water, Nh4 no3 ph kh gh .

i prefere for those shrimps those water parameters.

Tds 120-150

gh4-5

kh0

ph 6.2-6.4

no3 >10

Water change i do 20% in tanks with big population and 10% with small population

Some times for drop the no3 i do biger water changes to 50%.

I keep 2x 30 gallons shrimp tank with hundrends crs in there only with sponge filtres.

I have a problem wiht over population with those.

Shrimp dont like high flow ...

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