cross breeding super tigers with TBs/CRS/CBS

[samcha]

So I have am curious as whether this can be done or not. I have heard that super tigers get bigger then usual and was wandering whether they can cross breed with taiwan bees or even crystal red/blacks. i know regular tigers can... but just curious about the SUPER TIGERS. 
and if you have crossed bred any tigers with CRS/CBS or TBS... feel free to share pictures and mention what your shrimps are mixed with.

[jayc]

@samcha,

crossing tigers, be it super or regular, is not new. Many have already crossed them successfully, but patterns are random and not a guarantee you will like them, at least of the F1 or F2 generation.

The offspring of the cross are called Tibee.

 

Edited January 9, 2018 by jayc

[ineke]

 

i have had super tiger genes inmy Tibee line since 2013. The original F1 were attractive enough as they were a novelty at the time. When I came to F3/4/5 I had some good results but found that nearly all my giant gene shrimp were late bloomers for breeding. The females got berried but rarely carried their eggs to fruition. By the time they were 18 months old they bred very well for 6 months and gave me some nice babies. Unfortunately just as they were breeding well they died of old age 2-2 1/2 years old. When people came to my house and my shrimp room they were always amazed at the size of some of the shrimp -these were the giant gene shrimp. very notible next to ordinary shrimp. I went on to F10 but by that timre i lost my patterns and the shrimp reverted back to TB, CRS and Tiger phenotypes

[jayc]

Love your Tibees, Ineke.

Do you still have them? Or have you downsized your shrimp room?

[ineke]

7 hours ago, jayc said:

Love your Tibees, Ineke.

Do you still have them? Or have you downsized your shrimp room?

Thanks Jayc. I have had to close my shrimp room due to pain issues but have kept many of my shrimp. Unfortunately that meant losing my pureline TB genes. I recently added Tiger genes back into the mix so I have many F1/2 Taitbees that are quite plain. Now they are in with the TB I expect there will be some nice surprises in the coming months. I have them in a 200 litre tank so I have a reasonable number of shrimp still. Plus a tank of Yellows from my Tangerine Tigers - I think people are selling them as yellow KK  although mine are from pure Tangerine that I have line bred back to yellow and I thought Yellow KK were hybrids. 

I also have several hundred Taitibees outside in my pond. I breed them tough as we have had weeks of very high temps over 37 to over 40 and they are still thriving with many berried girls. It will be interesting to catch some out later to see what I have. These were mostly plain F 1/2/3 but I have added some not so good reds and blacks with good colour and pattern genetics in them. They have been outside for just over 12 months now and the numbers seem to be climbing so I'm obviously not losing many .

Edited January 30, 2018 by ineke

[jayc]

16 hours ago, ineke said:

They have been outside for just over 12 months now and the numbers seem to be climbing so I'm obviously not losing many .

Wha?!

You breed them without even doing anything?!!

I'm going to start doing the same I think. Put them into the backyard in a small pond and only catch the nicest ones for one display tank in the house. I have too many tanks indoors, got to reduce them somehow. How do you ensure mossies don't breed in your ponds? Cause fish and shrimp don't really mix. 

[ineke]

It's a great way to keep your culls because as you know often as they mature they can change and intensify in colour. I have taken a lot of both Neos and Taitibees back inside. you should see some of the Bloody Mary shrimp I put outside as i wasn't interested in breeding them- I have some in my aquarium and they are awesome -and I didn't even do selective breeding they just popped up in the black and chocolate tank! The same with my F1-2-3 Taitibees -as you know they have great potential but are generally fairly uninteresting. Now the F3 are berried it will be intersting to see what they give me -although I don't have any high grade shrimp in the ponds there are a few with reasonable patterns. I will know in a few weeks.