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[neo-2FX]

Is this baby planaria? A few like this on the glass. Have internal parasite clear at the ready...

[fishmosy]

Yep thats planaria alright.

[neo-2FX]

Thanks fishmosy for confirming my suspicions. It's a 40L tank how much powder? I don't have scales on hand and would like to dose today

[neo-2FX]

Day 64

Big trim.

Before

After

Rotala was out of control!

Need some wave scissors to trim hc soon!

[larrymull]

Did you manage to get rid of planaria @neo-2fx ?

[neo-2FX]

After two doses they're still around however when I've dosed I've had my Eheim 2213 going so it probably gobbles it all up. Will try another dose tonight and leave filter off for abit

[larrymull]

Interesting. I looked at my 23l this morning at work and seem to have planaria....sucks

[neo-2FX]

I have no idea where they came from as I didn't actually feed my shrimp until last week and they were there before that. Maybe hitched a ride with the shrimp I got.

[revolutionhope]

wors of advice - set a timer/alarm/reminder to turn your filter back on !!

[neo-2FX]

Haha yeah most definitely! That wouldn't end well!

[larrymull]

How long are you going to keep the filter off for?

[neo-2FX]

Most likely about 30 minutes...I had it off for longer than that last night while trimming so should be fine.

[revolutionhope]

http://www.oscarfish.com/water/71-autotrophic-bacteria-manifesto.html

posted rhis in another thread. is a really great. pretty sure ir covers quite well the subject of how long the nitrifying bacteria can live without oxygenation :-)

[neo-2FX]

Interesting article revolution! A good read. Thanks for linking it. However, it doesn't mention anything about time.

[revolutionhope]

oops sorry my mistake! must have been mixing things up somewhere! glad u liked it all the same though! :-)

[Disciple]

I think Northboy mentioned in another post something like 3 hours is safe but if you wanted to turn it off for longer just make sure you dont feed for a few days. I cant find the post though.

[neo-2FX]

Had filter off for 30 but turned it on about 3-4 times for couple seconds in between. Planaria don't seem to be bothered about IPC dosing though! Grrr

[revolutionhope]

this article seems to confirm that nitrobacter can live a few hours without oxygen and will likely all die after 24hours.

http://www.fishtanksandponds.co.uk/aquarium-science/nitrifying-bacteria.html

ps it does make a rather obvious point I personally never considered; how odd that u can buy cycle quickstart products in sealed bottles when autotrophic nitrifying bacteria couldn't survive. ya gotta love those greedy deceptive businesses!

good luck with the planaria :-)

[kizshrimp]

That article refers to something I wrote here recently about the equation running backwards to produce ammonia from nitrate. While it points to the process occurring in low oxygen conditions I recall it can also happens in low pH conditions although I could easily be wrong. 

 

There is a big difference between turning off the flow to aerobic bacteria sitting in a relatively open housing exposed to atmospheric air (eg HOB) or oxygenated aquarium water (UG, Sponge, Corner box etc) vs. sealed in an external canister filter. You have much less time in the canister filter, perhaps 3-4 hours until you start seeing a measurable reduction in nitrifying capacity. Worth knowing that the nitrobacter group (converting nitrite to nitrate) are most susceptible to crashing, therefore nitrite spikes being more common in established tanks kept at suitable pH than ammonia spikes. 

[neo-2FX]

Thanks for posting the above guys, very helpful!

 

Anyone know much about NQ Red Nose Shrimp and NQ Algae Shrimp?

 

I'm looking to get some to go with my DAS and Red Cherries but not sure how they'd fair.

[neo-2FX]

A big trim on HC and boy was I a happy man when I noticed a tiny tiny shrimplet! He was so small I had trouble focusing on him!!

All the others came out for a feed too!

Edited May 6, 2015 by neo-2FX

[Disciple]

That looks so good man. Keep it up.

[GotCrabs]

That is pretty sweet!

[neo-2FX]

He was just like "Hey! What's all the commotion about out here!?"

Very cute.

Just got a snap!

Edited May 6, 2015 by neo-2FX

[Disciple]

Shrimplets are the best. You find more if you look hard enough.