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Wondering how are the prices for shrimps going for 2014 ? :)

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K9932

Would be great to see an update on this :)

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KiwiBigD

I wouldn't expect it to move much to be honest, there are not many sales happening of late.

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JonX

Shrimp prices have dropped.

Blue bolts under $150

King Kong under $180

Panda $120 and under.

Im selling 3 shadow pandas on facebook for $300 for all.

They are not $400 or even $250 as they were this time last year.

Many people have taiwan bees and have been successful breeding them hence the relaxation with prices.

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michael

Is it that Jonny or is it that people are using mishlings More often now. A lot more not true pure breed shrimp being offered for sale. Ive seen some breeders not on skf selling pure blood tb,s but I know they were breed from mishling only 1 gen or so ago.

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JonX

Most are mishling x taiwan bee.

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Squiggle

I have to agree, gotta be careful when buying cheepies from people you don't know & trust. :encouragement:

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michael

Some people think we forget who was breeding what if u were buying up big numbers of mishlings then selling Pb tb's 6 months later where do u think they came. It's the newbies that are getting burned

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shrimpstan

I guess these prices are for juvi's.. (TBM)

What are pure TB breeding pairs going for these days? Not too long ago they were $800+

I guess its just simple supply/demand. Seems to be a lot more sellers out there now but not as many buyers proportionate to the increase of sellers. Hopefully soon we'll see 10 packs of KK or BB for $300 :p

Gotta say though the high quality good stuff should still warrant a good price due to the time it takes to selectively breed the desired results. There are still so many poor quality CBS, and to a lesser extent but not withstanding, CRS, for example. Good solid colour and high grade patterns still harder to find so price should remain the same since this time last year.

Maybe a lot of sellers opted to go for TB's and forgot about the humble CRS and CBS?

Meanwhile... the other day I saw GB's going for $100 each at the LFS! :p

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neosin
Some people think we forget who was breeding what if u were buying up big numbers of mishlings then selling Pb tb's 6 months later where do u think they came. It's the newbies that are getting burned

+1 mate

Name and shame them Michael :D

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KiwiBigD

Got to agree hence my comment that we are not seeing many sales of pure TBs anymore but TBMs. Personally I'm happy grabbing either but we also see people advertising in multiple places and TBs on one and TBMs on the other with the same picture. Always clarify first!

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BlueBolts

+1, TBM/TBMM's do appear to be the ones FS ATM. We must try to encourage the disclosure otherwise it'll muddle up selective breeding programs, and discourage new hobbyists etc... Just in my personal experience, more of the "experience", members/hobbyist have contacted me directly for pure TB's, and I suspect the same applies to other breeders.

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newbreed

I personally believe the current price list reflects what you expect to be getting for your dollars!! If TBM or TBMM then you pay less! Always pays to ask exactly what it is you are buying!! I don't like the concept of name and shame generally but if people are taking advantage of newcomers and damaging the hobby, I think it would be justified!

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Squiggle

I think it's also got to do with tightass people too, they see two shrimp that look the same & one is $50 cheaper, then they whinge when they get mischlings from breeding it. I always find if funny when people will pay $250 for a pair of Asics or Nike shoes or $200 for a Polo T-shirt but whinge about the price difference in this type of situation

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michael

I have recently seen tbs for one price claiming to be pb then tbm for $10 less.what that will be is mishling x Tb is what they call tbm.

Tbm x tbm is what they call pb tb. It doesn't work like that. I don't know about name and shame and adding comments to there post will upset people. Like it was said earlier there are so many places to sell them that it's almost uncontrollable.

mishlings were ment to help people get into tbs and now they are being used for people's profit. Most of us trade shrimp however the money gained usually goes back into the hobby.

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Daydream

Have always found that you treat nothing as pure and buy only shrimp that you are happy with the price and traits of whats on offer .don't expect to get the highest of quality as breeders will keep them for themselves me included.Just buy for your own goals and work on it.Price is only what its worth, to who wants it.

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Squiggle

I have to agree with michael, honesty in the advertising is definitely the way to go & I'm glad the people on this forum are honest. :victorious:

Also, I think there's a big problem that most people don't know the difference between genotype(genetically pure) & phenotype(looking like but impure genetics) of the particular shrimp, it's not their fault because they look the same but asking the genetic history is definitely a smart thing to do when buying shrimp. :encouragement:

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scottymac

Hmm, great question,

I think I have seen a reduction of price in the short time I have kept shrimp but I know a lot of culls are being sold, for example a SS CRS may have a "no entry" pattern but the red is slightly dull or white is not solid.

I have personally tried to only buy higher grades when adding new blood to my colony only to recently get the odd gold bee/snow white juvie.

If I was to sell these I would stipulate they came from CRS but clearly the CRS I have bought were crossed with SW/GB in order to get better markings. I will now ask the person I am buying from if the parents are CRS as I am aiming for will have solid red and white coloration on their legs.

When selectively culling I am no longer looking for patterns alone, more depth of solid colour.

I believe in the future, quality stock should be able to ask better price and breeders reputation will also come into play when looking at price.

The majority of members I have dealt with on SKF are honest and upfront, I just needed to know the right questions to ask. Now I also look at posts of images of their stock and other info they post just to get my head around what they keep and the quality of their stock.

Low grade red cherry shrimp are readily available from local aquariums (seen them sold for between $4.00 - $8.00) however CRS are very hard to come by.

When they do stock them they are asking for $12.00 - $20 for A grades. A lot cheaper on Gumtree (50 cents each) but I have never seen any quality shrimp for sale in the shops.

Something as I beginner I was unaware of was that just because it has the right patterns I am after it does not mean they came from quality parents.

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michael

Sounds like u have learned the right questions to ask. Although we don't like to admit it there are people in the hobby trying to make a quick dollar at others expense. Unfortunately there is no way to stop this from happening. It's unfortunate that for most people. The only way u learn someone is dishonest is to be ripped off. It might be 12 months. Down. The track before u realise that the tb u bought as Pb is a tbm when all of a sudden u are getting mishling babies.

Also as far as people being prepared to pay for quality I generally have to disagree. The simple fact is for most people they aren't prepared to pay $200 for something that looks the same as another breeder is selling for $150 when both are being sold as Pb and both breeders can show photos of the parents.

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Squiggle
Also as far as people being prepared to pay for quality I generally have to disagree. The simple fact is for most people they aren't prepared to pay $200 for something that looks the same as another breeder is selling for $150 when both are being sold as Pb and both breeders can show photos of the parents.

I agree, if one seller is lying then you have to ask the questions about genetic history, this is also where the breeders reputation has a great deal of importance as to whether you can trust them. :encouragement:

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Daydream

Problem being that some traits will skip a gen or two.How many shrip are out there that you go back7-10 generations and there is mish blood or crs cbs that have golden gen in them.dont even know if aus has pure or not for sure as the crossing goes far back down the line % is smaller each gen but its there to raise its ugly head every now and then.Have this with every colour and sp of shrimp I own.Even though I keep good track of what I breed what has happened before I started will still play a roll no matter what.

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viridisornatus

So what qualifies as pure in Australia? Are there many people here who can guarantee purity beyond a few generations?

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michael

There are breeders that can guarantee purity. I think it was covered a while ago and the consensus of the majority of members was shrimp that have breed true for more than 2 generations.

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Daydream

Breeders can only guarantee for the time they have breed them for how ever many gen.Have had cbs throw good solid black and white for 3/4 gen then all of a sudden 1crs comes out pure or not... you judge.If you have a german shepherd pure breed.Its blood is 100% german shepherd but if 5 gen back there is a pugx shepherd is it still pure breed

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CNgo2006
Breeders can only guarantee for the time they have breed them for how ever many gen.Have had cbs throw good solid black and white for 3/4 gen then all of a sudden 1crs comes out pure or not... you judge.If you have a german shepherd pure breed.Its blood is 100% german shepherd but if 5 gen back there is a pugx shepherd is it still pure breed

+1 on what Daydream has said...Pure TBs for few gens then suddenly a misch pops out...lol

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