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Neocaridina davidi - Colour Variations

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NoGi

Some good info here, let me know if the library needs updating

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NoGi

OK guys, this is the sticky thread for all things related to colour variations on the Neocaridina heteropoda (red, yellow, brown, etc...). It isn't for the various grades (sakura, rilli, fire, etc...).

Some content is already in the library (viewable to premium members only). Once we have an agreed standard on colours, I'll publish a A4/A3 quick cheat guide. Trying to get all forums to agree will be a tall task and could lead to nowhere. Lets sort out our backyard first and then we can take on the rest of the world. Having said that, lets not rename the colours that are fairly obvious and accepted around the world.

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Squiggle

Very cool idea dude, I've done a fair bit of research on all the cherry colours & I'm very close to having something worthwhile to post up for scrutiny, hopefully it will make some sense of the whole cherry family tree. :encouragement:

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BlueBolts

Great idea.....looking forward to get some direction ...

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smicko
Just some of my Rilli types What would you name them?? They are all rilli's breeding true to their various major body colour eg: velvet blue !

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I would call them magic lol.

They are a truly nice shrimp. By the way, I still have a tank or two for you Wayne.

Cheers mick

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BlueBolts
Very cool idea dude' date=' I've done a fair bit of research on all the cherry colours & I'm very close to having something worthwhile to post up for scrutiny, hopefully it will make some sense of the whole cherry family tree. :encouragement:[/quote']

Still waiting Squiggs....no pressure...tick tick tick tick tick tick.... LOL

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Squiggle

It's been finished for over two months now but I'm just waiting for the graphic designer to finish making it look professional, sorry everyone! :worried:

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bozzy

does it need to look profesional to be scrutinised? :beer:

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Squiggle

I'm a perfectionist! :beer:

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slin1977

In the reefing fraternity people love giving zoanthids cartoon names and charge high prices for these

"must have" zoas.

To me some are simply morphs of a recognised strain. Sometimes light can change the colour of these zoas. Calling shrimp King Kong is no different. Pls enjoy the link... Just wanted to show you parallel concepts in another hobby.

http://www.coralpedia.com/index.php?module=Gallery2&g2_itemId=15

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smicko
It's been finished for over two months now but I'm just waiting for the graphic designer to finish making it look professional' date=' sorry everyone! :worried:[/quote']

Nice way to blame the guy who's not here lol.

Cheers mick

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Squiggle
Calling shrimp King Kong is no different.

The site you have linked is very interesting, but I think this statement is incorrect. Calling a black Taiwan Bee a King Kong is a well recognized colour grade & is know all around the world, like Wine Red, Ruby Red, Painted Fire & Panda. You are right in saying they are a colour variation, but this variation is through selective breed, not different light or WP. With shrimp, a King Kong is a King Kong & nothing else, you don't have a blue blizzard King Kong or an amazon green King Kong. Although, in saying this, there are some people who have made up commercial name you various cherries but they are just names, not grades, as is the case with a King Kong. Hope this clears it up for you. :beer:

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Squiggle
Nice way to blame the guy who's not here lol.

Cheers mick

I really want to post what I have already but I'm embarrassed at how crap I am at using GD programs & I could only do it on Word. :encouragement:

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BlueBolts

Totally understand Squiggs, I'll wait for the "professional presentation, I'm a patient man ......... is it ready yet ? LOL:slapped:

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Squiggle

Hahaha, too funny BB! How are those lightening clowns going? Have you got them yet? Have you got them yet? Have you got them yet? :rofl:

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BlueBolts
Hahaha' date=' too funny BB! How are those lightening clowns going? Have you got them yet? Have you got them yet? Have you got them yet? :rofl:[/quote']

The decision is eating every part of my brain cells ATM :worried: it's either them or the green balbauti ATM

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smicko
The decision is eating every part of my brain cells ATM :worried: it's either them or the green balbauti ATM

Green balbautis for the win.

Then you could setup a larger Saltwater and have a full reef with the clowns.lol

But seriously you know you want too,lol

Cheers mick

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Squiggle
The decision is eating every part of my brain cells ATM :worried: it's either them or the green balbauti ATM

So have you got them yet? :rofl:

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bozzy
The decision is eating every part of my brain cells ATM :worried: it's either them or the green balbauti ATM

green balbauti :worthy:

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Gbang

Why not both lol. Great points here by all. Squiggle get ur ass into gear and publish the cherry tree!!! See what I did there lol

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Squiggle

I did banana man! hahaha :rofl:

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buck

so what ever happened to that cherry tree? : SWEAT :

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Squiggle

Don't ask, but it's closer than ever! It's only taken 12mths for all the various GD's who volenteered to screw me around & not get jack done on it. Hopefully in the next couple of weeks, fingers crossed. :thumbsu:

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JustTeddy

Any good breeders in Brisbane worth visiting and get some shrimps from?

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