Breeding neon tetra / cardinal tetra? Anyone have succesful breeding this? Lets Share :)

[poeticwinter]

Hi everyone

im interested breeding neon tetra/ cardinal tetra, i read alot about how to breed them. and water parameter and setup required. Its been 2,5 weeks still not seen any egg or baby swimming yet.

My setup is just hexagonal small tank now. with lots of subwassertang on the top (to make it like breeding mop)

Ive seen the female get bump on the belly, and they sometimes have breeding behaviour

But i have no succesful yet. anyone have succesful breeding them would be appreciated to share :) or any suggestion?

I keep the Ph lower all the time and put cattapa leaves just today hopefully it can make something different :)

[northboy]

One of the major thing the commercial farms do is, separate the sexes for a couple of weeks, then put them back together.

They spawn first thing in the morning and scatter their eggs on the bottom, you must then remove the adults to raise the young.

Most farms will use Marbles on the bottom of the tank to hide the eggs, the parents will eat their eggs.

The first step is to have some green water ready, this is the first food for the young, hard boiled egg yoke is also good.

There is a lot more tricks to, just depends on what you want to know and do.

Bob

OH black out of the tank saves loads of eggs from fungus, because fungus need light to take hold.

[fishmosy]

+ one for everything Bob has said. Unless you remove the adults after spawning they will eat the eggs and/or fry.

Cover the tank because the eggs are light sensitive and will die in light, thereby allowing the fungus to take hold.

[poeticwinter]

Hi Bob i grow neon tetra on community tank hence why i move a pair neon tetra to small about 10 Littre aquarium. after a week no success, i put all of my neon about 8 neon. still not luck they just have spawning behaviour without any sign of egg.so this time i put only 2 pair. both female look bump. hopefully this time they will lay eggs and hopefully by adding cattapa make they easier to breed. dunno why the female seems not release the egg thoughPS: im using regular gravel stone. and on top covered by moss and subwassertang so if they have eggs its not get direct light.did you ever sucess breed them?

One of the major thing the commercial farms do is, separate the sexes for a couple of weeks, then put them back together.They spawn first thing in the morning and scatter their eggs on the bottom, you must then remove the adults to raise the young.Most farms will use Marbles on the bottom of the tank to hide the eggs, the parents will eat their eggs.The first step is to have some green water ready, this is the first food for the young, hard boiled egg yoke is also good.There is a lot more tricks to, just depends on what you want to know and do.BobOH black out of the tank saves loads of eggs from fungus, because fungus need light to take hold.

[poeticwinter]

i will remove the adult if i have seen any egg haha. unfortunelly the female still look bump and no eggs just yet. this project already about 3 weeks i almost give up lol

+ one for everything Bob has said. Unless you remove the adults after spawning they will eat the eggs and/or fry. Cover the tank because the eggs are light sensitive and will die in light, thereby allowing the fungus to take hold.

[poeticwinter]

oh yes anyone have picture of the egg? what is look like and how big? is it usually many of them?

[poeticwinter]

here is my setup

[northboy]

Yes I have breed them many times.

First question is, how often are you water changing? it need to be a couple of times a week at least to get them ready

You need total darkness for the eggs and Cardinals are infinitely harder, the reason for the use of marbles is ease of maintenance and no plant to die in TOTAL darkness.

The first thing I was taught by my father in the 70s about breeding fish was, separate - condition- put together- spawn- remove the adults. Cichlid breeding is different and a no brainer= easy.

So step one, is to get you green water ready because about day 2 or 3 the young will feed, when the yolk sac is gone they are ready to feed, egg size= small Cherry shrimp eggs are about 4 times the size and the young are like slivers of glass, really small.

2: put the breeders together in a tank with new water in the evening, if you can place the tank where it is going to get the first sunlight it is going to make it easy for you, ( remember to black out the tank when you have eggs)

3: is to have brine shrimp eggs ready to go and San Francisco brand are small and the right size for day 7ish feeds

That is the starting point. it is not as easy as Cichlids any one can do them, if you are a Cichlid breeder you are going to have difficulty grasping the concept, I say that because I am sensing resentment to the separation idea? and the extra work.

Sorry I am blunt and to the point so do not take offence please

Bob

[northboy]

In answer to the number of eggs a 1000 is not out of the question.

Size is very tiny.

What City do you live in? that will help with water preparation.

2 male to 1 female some times helps

Black out is cover the tank with a heavy towel or something

Bob

[poeticwinter]

Hi Bob, i did changing the water every 3 days. I did try put the aquarium on the bottom aquarium cabinet so it total dark, but its hard to see if theres any eggs or not haha...btw what is green water? i live at perth. water PH is 7.2 although i put ph down to make abit acidic. i tried using substrate before to lower the PH but its doesnt work so i just using ph down powder.what colour of towel? any towel? what that use for? i live in tiny flat the way can the sun only if i open blind a bit. i have balcony although theres no access for electricity for the air pump?Dont worry im not getting any offence ;) just got to learn! thanks so much helping me out

Yes I have breed them many times.First question is, how often are you water changing? it need to be a couple of times a week at least to get them readyYou need total darkness for the eggs and Cardinals are infinitely harder, the reason for the use of marbles is ease of maintenance and no plant to die in TOTAL darkness.The first thing I was taught by my father in the 70s about breeding fish was, separate - condition- put together- spawn- remove the adults. Cichlid breeding is different and a no brainer= easy.So step one, is to get you green water ready because about day 2 or 3 the young will feed, when the yolk sac is gone they are ready to feed, egg size= small Cherry shrimp eggs are about 4 times the size and the young are like slivers of glass, really small.2: put the breeders together in a tank with new water in the evening, if you can place the tank where it is going to get the first sunlight it is going to make it easy for you, ( remember to black out the tank when you have eggs)3: is to have brine shrimp eggs ready to go and San Francisco brand are small and the right size for day 7ish feedsThat is the starting point. it is not as easy as Cichlids any one can do them, if you are a Cichlid breeder you are going to have difficulty grasping the concept, I say that because I am sensing resentment to the separation idea? and the extra work.Sorry I am blunt and to the point so do not take offence pleaseBob

[northboy]

The towel is for total darkness not just low light.

What is more important than low PH is low hardness.

The Adults need sun light as a trigger to spawn, but the eggs need total darkness to get the best number to survive.

Green water is where water out side goes pea soup green, it is full of micro food for the fry, you will get some survive on hard boiled egg yoke and liqua fry.

The eggs are seriously small and hard to see, you usually know by the female being slimmer.

Back to sun light, fish have what is known as spawning triggers, direct early morning Sun light makes up for a number of other triggers that might be missing, a lowering of PH and a drop in temp are also a good help to get them going.

Once you get them spawning remember what you did because you may not get it right raising the fry the first few times, they are a touchy one but rewarding and if you master them it makes a whole lot of others easy.

The first thing you need to master is the green water for the fry food, it really make the job of getting them through there first week easier.

Remember there are no dumb questions

Bob

[poeticwinter]

PH 7.2 GH is 5, i just changing the water the ph still high. what the suitable GH for them? addding Calcium and magnesium can lower the GH or make even more high?

first attempt picture today move them from cabinet to sunlight. they are not seems do any spawning

Link: http://postimg.org/image/6azkdnvnp/

[Squiggle]

Adding Calcium &/or Magnesium will definitely raise your GH :encouragement: