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hoang1912

I got some shrimplest die in the last few days, then doing research and have some question to ask:

Is it disturb the substrate by vacuum made it release toxins?

Rusted pieces can cause dead?

My Wp is good except GH is 6, is it the main reason?

Because I leave the tank in my study room, sometime I have lunch in there, does it effect to shrimp? ( food smell)

hopefully can find the reason. Hate to see the shrimp is dying T.T

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2OFUS

My gh is 8 and I'm successfully keeping tAibees

food will not effect them

i suggest u stop doing gravel vacs as this will cause a massive ammonia spike if not done properly

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hoang1912

Thanks 2OFUS. I think that is the main reason. Should I do some water change? I did 2 times 10% on Tues and Thus already.

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MrShrimp

Vacuuming your soil will kill shrimplets. Only disturb the soil in small portion at a time if needed to plant or decorate.

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2OFUS
Thanks 2OFUS. I think that is the main reason. Should I do some water change? I did 2 times 10% on Tues and Thus already.

Stop with the water changes for 2 weeks or so to let your tank stabilise again

what size tank is it ? How many litres

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jayc

Why have you got rusted pieces of metal in your tank? I'd say remove them as well. It could be leeching toxins into the water that are harmful to young shrimplets.

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2OFUS

Also becareful if you are using CHEAP telescopic(extendable) nets

as they hold water inside the metal extendable part and rust out

i once had a cheap net I was using for a long time and one day I closed the extendable part and BLACK water came oozing out

It was from the rust

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hoang1912

The rusted from the ceramic moss holder. I did remove it yesterday.

My tank is 3ft. I think vacuum substrate is the main reason of my situation.

Abt the net, I am using plastic, not metal extendable :encouragement:

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CNgo2006

Sorry for your loss, its all part of the hobby, all part of the challenge. Hope they do better soon.

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hoang1912

Thanks Chi. Hopefully they will recovery soon.

Just not understand, vacuum the substrate cause increasing the ammonia, but when I test ammo, it's yellow which mean 0......

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Dean

Gh 6 is fine, rusty things is not good.

Why you gravel vac? Shrimp tanks take at least 6-8months to get any real sort of

Crap build up in soil and need cleaning, if at all.

Sorry for the loss :(

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hoang1912

Thanks Dean. Because there are many of "worm" in the gravel that's y I did it. Didn't know that gravel vac is not good for shrimp tank.

As 2OFUS said, I should leave the tank for 2 week without changing water and let it stable again.

After that, properly have to buy some shrimp to growing up my colony again :(

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mrguppy

are know if its the same as the shrimp i keep guppys neon tetras and all small fish as the neon tetras they are not that hard any drastic changes will kill them,

when i vacuum my tank i do per square example every day i facuum very well a spot of 10cm x 10 cm that way u wont stress the fish and don,t make a mess around the tank

i dont know what vacuum are you using i use a eheim vacuum and they are awsome they release some small particles out of the mesh, thats why i do bit by bit, i know it takes time but its worth it, if you are using vacuum that suck water out and do whater changes like that. i use to use it but takes to much water and u wont clean much, get a eheim vacuum they are good for it,

i have a 3ft tank as well and those eheim work fantastic i do agree witrh the felles member here you should not do to many water changes in your tank 25% every 2 weeks should be good as for vacuum the gravel like DEAN say it takes time for your tank to build up crap in it, every 6 week i vacuum my tank bit by bit and never had a problem

now i dont know if its the same for the shimps am a noob in the shimp hooby, but after reading and asking 10000000 question and the 5000000000 answers i thing is pretty much same as the fish, any ways sorry for your lost is part of the hobby many ppl had losses, like i say is part of the hobby don,t worry every one learn from they mistakes

hope to see some new photos of shimps in your tank keep us posted. and ask many questions as you wont everyone would guide you very well here.

cheers

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hoang1912

Thanks for advise. Learn a lot from this mistake :">

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blackcat
Thanks for advise. Learn a lot from this mistake :">

Dont we all :( the worms arw they

planaria? If so head to the diy section and watch the video on the bottle trap ... I do it weekly and it works amazingly well :-) no harm too many of shrimp at all:thumbup: I use a pce of prawn as bait

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hoang1912

Since nearly a week from a first shrimp dead. Still have some more in last few days, mostly sub-juvi and 4 female (2 holding eggs). I still cannot find any reason which made them dead.

Aboout substrate vacc, I dont think I effect for that long time. Just did check WP, all is good, GH still 6. Guys, are there any reasons?

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CNgo2006

You can't count out the possibility of disease/bacteria...remove all shrimp into a different tank and do a proper clean of the one with issues, clean the filter, clean the soil, tank, etc. Maybe get some live bacteria and get a UV steraliser...I dosed mine with cycle every week, add Bee Max and added a Uv steraliser, this seems to have fixed my issues with unknown shrimp deaths.

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hoang1912

Chi, can you explain in detail for me plz? Currently I got a 1 ft tank which have no issue. Might move them to the new tank. There are many shrimplest in my 3ft tank, it will take a day to move all of them :D

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MrShrimp

Alot of members here go through that stage when they seem to loose Alot of berried females for no reason with the right water setting. I think it is something that we will never know the answer but change our set up or routine to prevent this from happening again. Some example is try not to add shrimps from unkwown seller ( bacteria) , add a uv light, add good bacteria every week, check your nitrate. In my opinion, it's important to change yourself how you do things otherwise the problem will repeat itself again in the future. Just my opinion .

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ineke

What is the good bacteria I've seen it mentioned but no one has said what it is they use?

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hoang1912

How to you add bacteria? is it using stability? Currently I dont have UV fertilize, doing some research what is it benefit :D

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CNgo2006
Chi' date=' can you explain in detail for me plz? Currently I got a 1 ft tank which have no issue. Might move them to the new tank. There are many shrimplest in my 3ft tank, it will take a day to move all of them :D[/quote']

Easy just move them all to the 1ft...wash everything that was in the tank or shared water where shrimp were dying and start again! This time you might want to get some live bacteria(add weekly) to help stabilise the good bacteria and add a good quality UV steraliser. I thought A UV was not needed too but if you are keeping expensive shrimp then I think it is a must as disease/bacteria can kill your shrimp costing thousands of $$$, not saying that even with a UV you will not get disease/bacteria but it will limit the possibility.

Or if that is too much hassle as Dean advised me add a BIG bag of carbon in filter and get a UV steraliser...add some live bacteria weekly, I use Bee Max and for live liquid bacteria something like Nutrafin Cycle

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MrShrimp

@hoang, the first step is make sure nothing in the tank that has the problem comes in contact with your other tank. For example don't use the net in the problem tank and then use it again in another tank. If your problem is bacteria them you are transferring bacteria from one tank to another (assuming its bacteria). You must isolate the problem tank. I think chi can help you after that.

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MrShrimp

I guess chi disagree with me. Just differant advice/opinion

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hoang1912

Thanks for advise guys. Currently, I had 500g Aquaone carbon in the filter. I am deciding to get a new canister with the UV light (will transfer the media(ceramic ring, carbon and replace plastic ball with seachem matrix) from the old filter).

Are we using seachem stability to add bacteria every week? Also, Am I need to do water change?

If I dont need to replace my filter with add in UV light, which light should I buy, can u recommence 1 for me?

Thanks

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