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Any model in particular i should be looking at?

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BlueBolts
Any model in particular i should be looking at?

If you contact FSA, and tell them the litre per week of RO water you need, they advise room n the perfect unit.

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torface
But looks like less is more in shrimp tanks

Yep, this is why i've gone very minimal in my new rack! Got very fed up of my planted tanks for my shrimp!

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torface
if your setting up a tank from scratch then this is my recipe for successful breeding.

tank- minimum 80ltr

filtration- canister & sponge filters

substrate- benibachi (minimum 6cm depth)

substrate additive- Bee max

water- Ro/Di unit

water additives- saltyshrimp bee shrimp mineral GH+

Pens- EC or TDS (low range)

Foods- kale tablets or ambitious

plants- moss

keep the tank as stable as possible. premix all your water for changes with saltyshrimp before adding to tank.

top up with pure RO only. keep EC/TDS as close as possible with every water change.

keep the bottom of the tank with minimum amount of things on it.

add shrimp and breed :)

Oxydators? :)

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BiGGiE

What percentage of water and how often do you guys do water changes?

and saltyshrimp mineral in 230g is out of stock at bossaquaria =[ can u get it anywhere else?

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Dean

yes and oxydator :)

mineral stock has been updated, i get a little behind sometimes.

ill leave water changes to others with small tanks :)

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Squiggle
ill leave water changes to others with small tanks :)

LOL, I hear that dude :victorious:

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BlueBolts
What percentage of water and how often do you guys do water changes?

and saltyshrimp mineral in 230g is out of stock at bossaquaria =[ can u get it anywhere else?

Depending on stock level / filter demands, but I generally do a 5% weekly water change, and a filter clean/rinse every 4-6 week. Seems to work best for me.

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BiGGiE

Thanks for all the responses guys!!

can i ask what an oxydator does?

and also as a shrimp soil additive is bacter 100 suitable?

and do u only feed kale and ambitious?

What other foods could be fed?

thanks

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durro68

Oxydator - breaks down H2O2 into O2 and H20 .....

It increases the amount or oxygen in you water ..... to keep it simple.

There are many options when feeding - see http://www.shrimpkeepersforum.com/forum/forumdisplay.php/22-Food-amp-Nutrition

I would assume bacter100 would be fine! I have used Benibachi / borneowild / mosura

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BiGGiE

What was everyones thoughts on PH range?

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MrShrimp

Ph varies from 5.5 to 6.5. Mine is 5.6-5.8 but I think most people keep them around ph 6 ish.

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BlueBolts

For TB, my tanks are 6.4-6.8, preferably I would like it lower at 5.5-6...

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2OFUS
For TB' date=' my tanks are 6.4-6.8, preferably I would like it lower at 5.5-6...[/quote']

Maybe try the benibachi fulvic stuff ??

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BlueBolts
Maybe try the benibachi fulvic stuff ??

Thanks, and I have/did, was sitting at 7.1 previously. I regard PH of secondary importance, as long as it's <7. Other WP like GH, TDS....etc is of more importance. A higher PH only becomes a real issue if the water quality is compromised.

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HexaD

Is it me or does biggie sound a bit too new to take on such a big investment and project?

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Dean

he still needs to find someone to supply the shrimp, and most good breeders will have taken note of this thread already :) but i think its good to be asking all the right questions before the investment and also if you setup for the high end than every other lower type of shrimp will be easy :)

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Squiggle

Well said guys, been thinking the same thing all along :encouragement:

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BiGGiE

Yea ill admit that im novice compared to all of the members on here but i really like the look of these shrimp and want to out my mind to it! So want to get all the information from people who currently keep them as opposed to someone supplying information from their experiences 2 years ago in another country. As i see it thats the whole point of this forum!

thanks for all the help and replies guys its much appreciated!

time to research some more!

cheers

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CNgo2006
Yea ill admit that im novice compared to all of the members on here but i really like the look of these shrimp and want to out my mind to it! So want to get all the information from people who currently keep them as opposed to someone supplying information from their experiences 2 years ago in another country. As i see it thats the whole point of this forum!

thanks for all the help and replies guys its much appreciated!

time to research some more!

cheers

As many of us have experienced big losses when rushing into the TBs that is why we advise baby steps and go through the Cherry, CRS/CBS, TBs stages, Gain the experience first making sure you can keep the other types alive first before stepping into the $$$ shrimp. As a big loss is enough to turn you off the hobby for good.

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BiGGiE

Understand completely!! Id be stupid to rush out n buy them without doing all my research first considerin the cost lol currently keeping crs and rcs too but saw these and have been mesmorised since...

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Squiggle

At least you can admit it & are very keen to learn, we are all here to help you & answer any question you have about TB's & how to keep them but as I mentioned earlier, they aren't a beginners shrimp & it will be a pretty expensive exercise to learn on if something goes wrong, most people start with cherries, move on to crystals & then give TB's a crack. We don't want to to spend thousands of dollars on shrimp to loose them quickly, not fun at all :encouragement:

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Squiggle
but saw these and have been mesmorised since...

Yeah they do that to ya :victorious:

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torface
Is it me or does biggie sound a bit too new to take on such a big investment and project?

Lol saying what everyone was thinking!

But good on you Biggie for doing your research because many people don't. I'm pretty sure it'd be a kick in the teeth to any breeder to sell to someone who hasn't and have the shrimp die. You'll do we'll by listening to some of the people on this forum. Most want you to do well rather than make money.

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BiGGiE

Sorry didnt mean to offend anyone by insinuating that they are easy to keep!

i know they are difficult and hard to keep let alone breed but i do want to pick as much info

as possible to best prepare myself for what i want

I appreciate everyones thoughts and comments as it confirms how difficult they are! LoL

knowledge is power and the more i know the better i can prepare!!

Now to find some ro and saltyshrimp minerals!!

Thanks all!!

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