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To this day I still don't know how to really tell the difference between a Red Wine and CRS , Panda or CBS? Are there certain characteristics that we should be looking for? Or is it just the coloration?

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really??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

if you still say that after seeing them in real life i would recommend that you see a doctor for an eye check lol

the color is soooooooo different.

I will take some side by side pics tomorrow for you if no one else does it first :)

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I've never been lucky enough to see them side by side so I'm looking forward to seeing your pics Dean, I have noticed that in most pics the wine reds are a deeper red but the two pics above are hard to tell the reds apart :confused:

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What the? The white on the Red wine is ridiculously thick, colour and pattern are different too. Most of the time the legs are very nicely coloured.

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Ok, I see what you mean about the white but as I've said already, I've never been lucky enough to see a wine red in real life, only pics :dejection:

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The difference is VERY obvious, and no doubts whatsoever, between a CRS and Wine Red. The density of the red & white colour, depth, and thickness of shell etc... The CRS in your pic has a red face, which isn't the "norm" to most CRS, which may confuse the difference, but once you've seen. WR, there'll be no mistaking them...

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So it is the coloration, to tell the truth I have only ever seen 1 and that was as juvie at Robert's house, I did notice the color difference but was just wondering if there were any other differences/characteristics to tell them apart. Thanks for the replies guys. Now to get one for myself! Just thought I would check before getting ripped off! LOL! Also thought I would ask for us noobs, looking at my pics I am sure a few could get scammed.

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better to just get a Ruby Red >:) then youll definitely notice the difference.

Plus its only the colour thats different in most of the shrimps we keep. King kongs, pandas, ruby reds, red wines, tigers, cbs, crs, snow whites, golds are all the same type of shrimp.

Blacks, blues, reds, yellow, rilis, oranges, green etc cherries are all just cherries. Same shape different colour.

Black, white, yellow, brown, olive. All just human :P

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Plus its only the colour thats different in most of the shrimps we keep. King kongs' date=' pandas, ruby reds, red wines, tigers, cbs, crs, snow whites, golds are all the same type of shrimp.

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Yes but their price value are not. This is why I wanted to ask for us noobs before anyone gets scammed.

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Ok noobs....this is as clear as I can get for you.

RED WINE.....is an alcoholic drink

And the other one is a shrimp ......Crikey?!

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Ok noobs....this is as clear as I can get for you.

RED WINE.....is an alcoholic drink

And the other one is a shrimp ......Crikey?!

hahaha :)

It is a valid question though and i think there are more people who weren't too sure either :)

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RED WINE.....is an alcoholic drink

Technically, they're officially called Wine Red (WR), but often referenced as Red Wine....

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  • 8 years later...

Hi im really a noob so please don't eat me up 🤪🤪 

I bought a few crs and red king kong(red wines) from a seller. I know they are really really bad grades of the breeds but can someone educate me how to tell them apart? The image with the arrows are from the seller. IMG-20210426-WA0037.thumb.jpg.d2f262df94b15ade9c4b407953483da1.jpgfrom the seller. I don't understand how he could tell that the king kongs are those two cause apparently they are supposed to be more vibrant in colour right? IMG-20210426-WA0020.thumb.jpg.f28fa0a683b548b5b090c7201d52618c.jpganother photo

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To be sure you need to leave them in their new home for a few daysand then they will colour up as they always fade in transit, but I think you have,

2 yellow king kong at top of first photo, all yellow

3 lower grade red crystal or red wine, red and white bands, possibly 1 red wine and 2 crystal

2 higher grade crystal red, mostly white with small red bits

3 black king kong extreme, all black

3 blue/black I'm not sure but could be blue steel/bolt or panda, or just low quality black king kong

It will become clearer after a few days n their new tank and they colour up better but it is a very interesting and varied mix so should look fantastic!

The ones marked Kk I am certain aren't that but maybe a higher grade crystal as above.

At this stage part of the fun will be to see what they turn out to be in a few days!

The way to tell red wine from Crystal is that red wine have the red the colour of red wine, but the crystals are more of an orangey (less deep) red.  At this stage I suspect  you have 1 red wine and 2 crystal?

Simon

 

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So the CRS will have very consistent colouring - large white bands that are clear and defined, and a more 'painted' bright red. You can see all their bands go completely around their body, and a higher grade CRS has more white on it. A red wine, however, will be higher grade if it is more red, and they don't always have consistent bands. Additionally, red wines have a deep, 'wine' red. 

The easiest tell is definitely the colour of red - CRS have a brighter, 'painted' red that looks like it is literally painted on their shell (the white has the same look), and red wines have that deep red wine colour, which is the colour of their flesh, and the white looks like it is painted on to that red-pigmented flesh.

From the second photo I see the following (going left to right in lines, and then working down one line at a time from the top like in a basketball play - 2 1 4 2 3 1 - assuming 2 means there are 2 shrimp sharing a lateral line in the image, etc.). These are just my assumptions, I'm not an expert, we'll need side-on photos in a couple weeks to tell properly. 

Top 2: High grade CRS and a Red Wine
Next 1 below: CRS
Line of 4 (left to right still): Shadow Panda, Blue Bolt, Yellow King Kong, Black King Kong
Next 2 below (right one is higher than left one slightly but I'll call it a line): Low grade CRS or Red Wine (need side image once coloured fully), and a Yellow King Kong
Next 3: Black King Kong, high grade CRS, and a Shadow Panda or low grade Black King Kong
Last 1: Blue Bolt

 

Hope this helps and I didn't make you more confused ahaha. 

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Hi@sdlTBfanUK and@Crabby thank you so much for replying. I finally get it now Omg. No wonder they say its a worlds apart.

Now that you mentioned it, the colours really popped after settling down. Although not as liquid paper white as the pure crs I bought at the shop. Can't wait to see how the colours develops further. I'm currently feeding them shrimp king colour.

And you're right about the blue bolt. They are really a pretty sight. So unique and mesmerising. Actually the yellows are actually cherry shrimps. [emoji87] I kind of keep the cherries and crystals together. I maintain the water parameters in between hoping that it will suffice cause I saw my colleague doing that for years now and she buys her shrimps from the same seller.

First image is the shrimps with my community of cherries and my pure crs above on the sponge.


Second image is the blue bolts. e2e039f50a9e205d60514be95404c819.jpg702b0589c05c7fae4666f633a4a55f90.jpg

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That blue bolt is stunning, they are my favourites. The yellow cherry witth the stripe are also very pretty.

You can keep neocaridina and cherry together! The cherry will adapt better to slightly off parameters than the Caridina!

The red stripey in the photo look to be red wine on the left and red crystal at the middle back. The upside down higher grade crystal is also very attractive? If these are the new shrimp they have coloured up nicely?

Simon

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The two supposedly wine reds(red King kong). Second picture is its view from the top. 1c34673c44925e6d8695d03b14a0cb5d.jpgbbc2794a8c8a2eccd5df30d623ccb19c.jpg

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That blue bolt is stunning, they are my favourites. The yellow cherry witth the stripe are also very pretty.
You can keep neocaridina and cherry together! The cherry will adapt better to slightly off parameters than the Caridina!
The red stripey in the photo look to be red wine on the left and red crystal at the middle back. The upside down higher grade crystal is also very attractive? If these are the new shrimp they have coloured up nicely?
Simon
Oooo. Yeah I'm keeping them around 6 plus for pH(more comfortable for the caridinas) and not too low. I'm too scared cause I have a few berried neocaridinas. Don't want them to start dropping their eggs.

Off topic, but is there ways to stop a cherry shrimp from dropping its eggs? One of the yellow cherries I just bought from the seller was pregnant and she started dropping off her eggs few days later. [emoji24] Was hoping for her to be the matriarch of the yellows in my tank. [emoji17] I asked the seller what the parameters he kept them and it was similar ; tap water dechlorinated. Considering my country is quite small, the water from the tap shouldn't be too far off eed16ceaf0063e733a0022f86ad083f9.jpg

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16 hours ago, ShrimpNoob9 said:

The two supposedly wine reds(red King kong). Second picture is its view from the top. 1c34673c44925e6d8695d03b14a0cb5d.jpgbbc2794a8c8a2eccd5df30d623ccb19c.jpg

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I think these are more galaxy/fancy tigers than red king kong, very pretty still of course!

Simon

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16 hours ago, ShrimpNoob9 said:

Oooo. Yeah I'm keeping them around 6 plus for pH(more comfortable for the caridinas) and not too low. I'm too scared cause I have a few berried neocaridinas. Don't want them to start dropping their eggs.

Off topic, but is there ways to stop a cherry shrimp from dropping its eggs? One of the yellow cherries I just bought from the seller was pregnant and she started dropping off her eggs few days later. emoji24.png Was hoping for her to be the matriarch of the yellows in my tank. emoji17.png I asked the seller what the parameters he kept them and it was similar ; tap water dechlorinated. Considering my country is quite small, the water from the tap shouldn't be too far off eed16ceaf0063e733a0022f86ad083f9.jpg

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I don't think there is much you can do about the shrimp dropping eggs at this stage, it is usually down to stress or water parameter change, or both, so is more of a risk when you get new shrimp! Any future batches should be fine though and there are even people that 'rescue' the dropped eggs if you are wanting to give that a go? I can't see any eyes in the eggs so these eggs may not be sufficiently developed to 'rescue' but you should find details on this on here?

Lovely blue shadow panda in the picture above.

Simon

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Sadly my yellow shrimp did lose her eggs. However weeks later she got berried again! These shrimps are truly amazing!

1st pic: coming soon!!
2nd pic: when different breeds from different backgrounds come together ed80cc089c85afd4ebb6a87a231d7505.jpge1661defe6d6f6e15bc1a767c6027beb.jpg

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superb photos. I hope this batch of eggs work out ok, they are beautiful yellow shrimps!

Simon

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