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Hi All ,

Do you need to use water ager for RO water. I've just done almost complete water chang in 2 tanks and didn't use anything now I'm worried as I've put my new shrimp into the tanks after several hours of putting small amounts of tank water into their bags. Please put me out of my misery and tell me I didn't need to use the water ager!!!!!!!!

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Ineke

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You changed nearly all the water?

I would do a 10 percent water change once a fortnight.

But I mostly just top up.

The more water changed the bigger difference in water parameters equals stress, equals death in my opinion.

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Water ager as in prime or something? Can't say I've ever used prime with my ro as ro to me is pristine water and only needs minerals put back in

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LOL no the tanks were supposed to be empty the water changes were done to get ready for new shrimp that required lower TDS and I had ordinary tap water in there before. It's all cool no livestock was harmed just worried that the new water should have had any ager in it. It was changed over a course of nearly a week and the water was standing overnight to come up to room temperature. I just thought that as RO water was so pure it didn't need water ager and now I'm worried that it might have needed it. When I do water changes I usually only do a few litres at a time.

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Ineke

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Water ager as in prime or something? Can't say I've ever used prime with my ro as ro to me is pristine water and only needs minerals put back in

Thanks MickeyG you saved me again!!! Yes I thought it was pure too but then started to doubt myself. I also did the changse over several days so I didn't get a spike in my water . tested everything this morning and all WP were in good limits just didn't remember to ask about prime!!!

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Ineke

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Nah I have always used salty minerals for my ro, not sure if I'm right but prime helps get rid of the chlorine and chloramines? Lol can't spell

Could be wrong again but with ro having everything flitered from the water there would be no need for a water ager like prime.

Congrats on the tanks and new shrimps

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Thanks MickeyG Yes prime gets rid of THAT stuff. I have the salty shrimp on order and there is a bit of one of your Bio max balls in there plus a Shirakura mineral stone and probably still some of the old tap water as I didn't change it all. The yellows will be fine and with the crystal mineral food you sent I'm sure the crystals will have enough for a few days without salty shrimp.

For every bit I learn there is double that I don't know:dejection: but I'll get there just hope I don't kill the shrimp on the way!!!!;)

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Ineke

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Ah then you will be fine, cherries are very hardy and I'm sure gbang sent you some healthy strong shrimp so I bet they will love there new tanks.. exciting times for you ahead ineke!!

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Nah, definitely don't need to put water ager in RO water, that's the whole point of an RO system, to strip out all the crap the govt put in the water, just pure H2O comes out :encouragement:

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Thank goodness for that!!!! Now when my salty shrimp comes how do I introduce that to an up an running tank that doesn't have any in it?

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Ineke

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I'd only use it for water changes, if you add it now you'll only increase your TDS :encouragement:

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THANKS Squiggle that sounds good. If I use half RO and half tap water for the cherries will they need anything added.?

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