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Kelly

I literally watch my female shrimp drop all her eggs..... and I’m unsure why she did this help!

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Kelly

Ok they are acting weird not sick weird but...horny? I just got these guys last Tuesday. They just been put in this new tank this morning and theirs already molts...tthe males been swimming around since I released them like they looking for something the females are grazing...The berried female which I’m sure was berried when I received her aborted those eggs and now I think I just saw a male try to mate with her which of course she’s probably not even close to being ready... did she abort because she’s going to molt again?  Has anyone else had this happen?

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Crabby

I’ve had a berried girl drop her eggs in her moult (twice), but never just drop them on their own. 

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sdlTBfanUK

The photo on the other thread shows female with large eggs but they are yellow and no dots so those eggs may have been unfertiized? Changes in water parameters will encourage molting, so new shrimp that are added will likely moult when added! Moulting, in turn, is usually the beginning of the breeding period for females so that all sounds quite normal so far.

Just keep on watching and hopefully you will get some newly berried and fertilized females soon?

Simon

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Kelly

Well  those eggs I believe were eaten by the other shrimp but there’s a new one berried:) All shrimp seem climatic even and happy. They eating lounging around and hitching a ride on my apple snail....

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Crabby

That's good news! Sounds like they're doing great!

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Kelly

Well  those eggs I believe were eaten by the other shrimp but there’s a new one berried:) All shrimp seem climatic even and happy. They eating lounging around and hitching a ride on my apple snail....I can’t get pictures to add for some reason. It was working ok before but now says to large.......

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Kelly

But they’re not hiding or swimming around like am imaginary predator after them. I’m using fluval substrate, there’s drift wood, Java moss and fern, couple small crypts, 2 star lilies, couple floater plant I’m unsure will survive.... in a 8 gallon tank. 

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jayc

Keep it up. Seems like the shrimp are settling into the new tank environment.

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sdlTBfanUK

The swimming around you describe is probably the males looking for a female that is ready to breed, so not anything to worry about, quite the opposite in fact!

Simon

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Kelly

There’s a few molts so your probably right.  I also got 6 raccoon tigers. Cardina mariae .... they also seem to be settling in fine. The shrimp especially the tigers pick up the bug bites and swim away with it! I think I did amazing job on the tank. 

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Kelly

Make that 9+ Raccoon shrimp I got 3 more. And why I said + is 2 of them are berried...question I’m told that female shrimps let out a pheromone will that effect both species males to go batty or will it only effect the same species of shrimp? It’s very interesting to watch them. They seem to love bug bites and literally grab a piece and take off with it and another will  try to take it from them. I eventually plan to move the news to their own tank. 

Now the offspring of these shrimp might not be 100% raccoon tiger the mothers were with crystal blacks.

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Crabby

As far as I'm aware, the pheromones are different for each genus (caridina and neocaridina), so they won't affect other males. I might be wrong though. My blue dreams and tangerine tigers breed around the same time generally, so that I can't really tell. I just get a couple of days with mad little males, and then everyone chills a bit. 

Also, I've never seen those raccoon tigers before, and they are SO COOL!!!

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Kelly

They have nice markings.  So there’s more molts and so far as I can see 2 berried females:) 

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Kelly

Right now I put a apple snail in their tank.... it seems to be very considerate not to run over the shrimp lol and the shrimp occasionally hitches a ride on it. Now my concern is the soon to be shrimplets.... will this snail become a issue for them?

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sdlTBfanUK

I have snails in all my tanks and always have had. The shrimps will be fine as they are much quicker than a snail, though the shrimp will eat dead shrimp so if you see a snail eating a shrimp don't assume/think it killed the shrimp! Occasionally my shrimp will ride on the back of the snails, I think they are grazing on the algae/biofilm that grows on the snails shell.

Simon

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Kelly

I think I have shrimplets...I saw 1 clear small creature that looks like a shrimp crawling about...but unsure. Are babies clear when born? When does the colour start to show?

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sdlTBfanUK

The babies are usually clear when first born (neocaridina) and probably about 1mm, they grow quite quickly and colour up in just a few days. I believe they grow in size about 50% each time they molt early on so keep watching closely. They are very difficult to see when first born because they are clear so hopefully there may be a batch in there?

Simon

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Kelly

There’s a lot of hiding places in the 8 gallon... Jav moss, drawn hair grass which I just added, Java fern, drift wood with Anubis on it, ohh see a baby one right now!! ..think I might need to set up another tank in future... lol wasn’t expecting them to be so fertile within a couple of weeks that I got them. I have a berry neo, 1 raccoon tiger caridina that given birth i think...another raccoon still berried not sure when she have hers.... the neo was recently berried.  Just seen. Berried raccoon so no babies from her yet. I bought 2 black crystals....As an experiment I’m unsure how they do but so far they seem ok...

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Kelly

Well I know for 100% for sure theres at least 2 shrimplets. They still very tiny but growing. They are still clear but I think they are raccoon cardina babies. I notice the 2 because the tank only 8 gallon and they crawling  around  on the glass probably eating biofilm. They must be able to find food because I swear they are little bit bigger then yesterday. Does anyone know how long  it takes for them to start showing their markings and colours? I’m unsure if they are 100% raccoon tigers the moms were also with black crystals at Big Als pet store.... which I don’t mind. 

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sdlTBfanUK

Great news and there are probably some more in the tank you can't yet see!

They usually colour up in a week, it is usually gradual though. They are probably eating the biofilm on the glass of the aquarium. Many people (me included) leave a lot of the tank (especially with small tanks) covered with the biofilm, ie if there is only one side you can see into the tank, just leave the others and don't clean them when you do maintanence, of course it won't look as tidy, so that is down to the individual to decide how much they are happy to leave? I only clean the front glass. Obviously baby shrimp can only eat biofilm (or baby shrimp food) when newborn!

Always exciting when you first get your first baby shrimps? 

Simon

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Kelly

Well I see one baby I think was from one mother... and 3 from the other.... why I say this? Well 1 is a bit bigger then the other 3. I not sure where the mothers are there’s a few hiding places.....but there’s at least 5 babies.

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Kelly

Well... I just bought 3 unknown type caridina..... I don’t know what they are but they look interesting. Big Almwas reluctant to sell. Said they were rare last Friday but today they were for sale 10.00 each. 1. Looks like a red crystal but maybe it’s a red wine?  The other might have black crystals genes it has black head  but  interesting orange tinge to the body it stead of the white. The 3rd the prettiest of them all almost looks like a sunkist orange but whit spot on skull... Al pet store calls them red bee shrimp.  Now they were also kept with the raccoon tigers....so now I have 9 aldult raccoon tigers, 3 black crystals, 3 red bee,  Unknown amount of raccoon shrimplets 2 batch’s of eggs waiting to be born.I soon have to set up another tank I think....

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sdlTBfanUK

You should get some interesting shrimplets from that sort of mix,  really pleased it is going well! Might you be able to et some photos (not too big file size)?

Simon

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Kelly

I want to but I’m not sure how to change the mb on my Apple iPad camera.  The photos I was able to sent here was pure dumb luck on my part. I mostly have raccoon tiger shrimp... 9. Crystals/mixed 5. This is not counting the shrimplets and I’m pretty sure  they be raccoon as the moms were berried when I bought them from big Als...... now there’s a slim chance that they could be mixed breed too... the 3 small tanks are attached together and they seemed to figure away to jump to the other tanks at big Al pet store. I don’t mind in fact I’m curious on what I get from them. But the raccoon pattern wow. I’m looking at a big female back right now  and the black stripes are dark and thick.  

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