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jayc
10 minutes ago, abepaniagua said:

fuzzy stuff appearing on the substrate

Could be a sign the tank is cycling again.

Test for ammonia and now is the time to do more water changes.

If you have another tank/filter, add bacteria from that other tank after a couple of water changes.

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abepaniagua
2 hours ago, jayc said:

Could be a sign the tank is cycling again.

Test for ammonia and now is the time to do more water changes.

If you have another tank/filter, add bacteria from that other tank after a couple of water changes.

Ok. I'm doing water changes, but how does that white stuff disappear? Shrimps are finally starting to act normal again.

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jayc
3 minutes ago, abepaniagua said:

how does that white stuff disappear?

Maybe grab a picture of it, just so we don't confuse it for something else.

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abepaniagua
5 minutes ago, jayc said:

Maybe grab a picture of it, just so we don't confuse it for something else.

Here you go:

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sdlTBfanUK

Great news that you haven't had any more deaths recently, hopefully that is now sorted out!

Many new tanks (mmine included) get fuzzy mould looking in them but it usually passes as the tank matures. It usually hapens more with wood in the tank and it is harmless to the inhabitants, just unsightly.  Just leave it a bit longer and see what happens!

Simon

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abepaniagua

I'll give it time and continue with water changes. Today the last of the red wine Caridinas died. All three pandas are alive, and the one that had lost color is going back to normal.

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sdlTBfanUK

That red shrimp may just have been too weakened by the whole experience to recover. Hopefully the remaining shrimps are strong enough to survive and the tank settles down now! Just let it run for a month and the fuzz should disappear and if the remaining shrimp survive, it may then be time to try a few new shrimps.......

Simon

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jayc

The pictures above certainly look like the tank is cycling again.

Have you got a test kit to test for ammonia, nitrites or nitrates? I think I have asked a couple of times already.

We don't know if your shrimp are now dying because of residual side effects from the disease, OR ammonia poisoning.

At this stage, I'm more inclined to assume the former (ammonia poisoning) with the lack of more information.

Have you got another tank apart from this one pictured above?

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abepaniagua

I'm sorry I thought I had answered. Ammonia levels were low but o tested today and it was really high. I've kept doing water changes every day but 20-30%. 

I just did a 40% or so. One panda died. Ammonia must be the reason. The 2nd panda is already slow and dying. I don't have another tank sadly.

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abepaniagua

I just grabbed a cup and added the water I normally use for the shrimps, added salvinia natans and put both pandas left in there. One is dying, the other is still active. 

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Crabby

That's really unfortunate, I'm sorry to hear that. What's the exact ammonia reading?

 

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abepaniagua
1 minute ago, Crabby said:

That's really unfortunate, I'm sorry to hear that. What's the exact ammonia reading?

 

Seems to be 3ppm

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Crabby

Yeah that could definitely be killing the shrimp. Try a slow 25% water change.

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jayc
On 2/26/2021 at 11:36 AM, abepaniagua said:

I'm sorry I thought I had answered. Ammonia levels were low but o tested today and it was really high. I've kept doing water changes every day but 20-30%. 

No worries.

And yeah, that is the problem with the most recent shrimp deaths ... ammonia.

The fuzz in the tank is a clue that the tank is cycling again.

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abepaniagua
22 hours ago, jayc said:

No worries.

And yeah, that is the problem with the most recent shrimp deaths ... ammonia.

The fuzz in the tank is a clue that the tank is cycling again.

Well, I have no Caridinas anymore. Blue and bronze neos. I'll keep doing water changes until it goes back to normal. After that, I'll wait a month before trying Caridinas again.

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sdlTBfanUK

Sorry to hear that, but it will give you the chance to start afresh once the tank has fully cycled, and you have a few neos as an interest in the tank to tide you over in the interim period!

Simon

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abepaniagua

Thank you for all the help. I believe the issue was a bacteria. Deaths have stopped so far. Shrimps are very active, they keep molting and there's still 1 berried female. I keep doing water changes until it cycles, and half the tank doesn't have the fuzzy white thing anymore. The other part does still.

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abepaniagua

Also, I forgot to say and ask. Very few of my neos are 1 color. Most have a clear area where organs are, then circled by its color. Let me share a picture. 

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This shrimp seems like it's black but head area is clear. Most of my blue neos were like that. 

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Now this one is one of the few that grew up 1 colored, and I have no idea what freaking color it is. I didn't buy it, so I'm sure it's one of my first babies from last September/October. But parents were both blue neos, and it doesn't have a clear area where you can see organs. Is that normal?

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    • abepaniagua
      Also, I forgot to say and ask. Very few of my neos are 1 color. Most have a clear area where organs are, then circled by its color. Let me share a picture.  This shrimp seems like it's black but head area is clear. Most of my blue neos were like that.  Now this one is one of the few that grew up 1 colored, and I have no idea what freaking color it is. I didn't buy it, so I'm sure it's one of my first babies from last September/October. But parents were both blue neos, and it doesn't have a clear area where you can see organs. Is that normal?
    • abepaniagua
      Thank you for all the help. I believe the issue was a bacteria. Deaths have stopped so far. Shrimps are very active, they keep molting and there's still 1 berried female. I keep doing water changes until it cycles, and half the tank doesn't have the fuzzy white thing anymore. The other part does still.
    • Crystal Jade
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    • sdlTBfanUK
      Sorry to hear you lost some shrimps! How big is your tank and how long has it been running? Did you do the 'cycle'? When doing a water change you should drip the new water into the tank. That will illiminate the temperature difference problem and any difference in parameters between the two waters. When acclimating new shrimps you should drip acclimate them as long as you can, the longer you do that the better chance they have of survival. You will need to match the water temperature to that of the tank by floating the container with the shrimp in the tank once you have stopped dripping, before adding the shrimp to the tank! The parameters you have I would think are acceptable so I would stick with tap water if that is what you are using, for now. RO water is ideal but you will then need to buy GH/KH+ to add the minerals. As I say, I would hold off using RO/distilled water for now until we can pin point the problem. If your water has a green tint to it that may be an algae bloom? A white tint is usually a bacteria bloom and I have only seen that whilst a tank is 'cycling'. I think an algae bloom will mean there is less oxygen in the water as the algae absorbs it?????? Overfeedinng is very common. It will depend upon the size of the tank and how long it has been running etc. With only a few shrimp there may actually be no need to feed additional to the natural biofilm of the tank. As shrimps are feeding all day on biofilm it is usually better to see additional food as just a treat and feed very sparingly. Overfeeding with shrimps doesn't usually mean that the shrimps over eat, it usually means  too much uneaten food polutes the water and if you have green tinted water, algae bloom, that may be why? There usually comes a time, if you are lucky, that there are too many shrimps in the tank for the biofilm to sustain on its own, so as the population grows feeding may become more necessary. Shrimp don't usually hide unless they are new to the tank or there are fish etc (even then they will usually adapt to them) or as JayC says, their is something wrong with the water quality?  Simon
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      Sorry... this was meant to be partially sarcastic. I mean it's a bit sad but I don't really mind all too much. Yeah they're like that, with those big mouths. 
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