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Hey guyz, im cycling a 30l tank to get some rcs in it. The tank is almost cycled and im thinking of getting them next week. 

I have tested the water and the kH is at 9 and ph is 7 (i have yet to buy a gh test as i bought the jbl pack and didnt realise it does not include gh). I have read about parameter for neo carodina and they say that the hardier the water the better. But i have also read that the water can be too hard which will make it hard for them to molt.

What would you recommend for the parameters ? And how much should i start as a basic colony? 

 

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On 2/26/2019 at 6:51 AM, Aquahobby said:

I have tested the water and the kH is at 9 and ph is 7

KH 9 and pH7 is an unusual combination. KH at 9 should mean that pH should be higher than 7.0. Something is not right.

Please retest KH.

 

Ideally, you would aim for KH 4-6 for RCS, and pH 7.

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I tested the water again today, kh wast at 8 and the ph is 7/7.5 what I'm worried is in an earlier thread i saw these water parameters 

Neocaridina (All colour variants of Cherry Shrimp)

PH - 6.4

KH - 0-2

GH - 4-6

TDS - 100-200

Temp - 21-23

 

Are these parameters correct for neocarodina? As the kh gh are usually recommended to be higher no?

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42 minutes ago, Aquahobby said:

Neocaridina (All colour variants of Cherry Shrimp)

PH - 6.4

KH - 0-2

GH - 4-6

TDS - 100-200

Temp - 21-23

The parameters for Neo Caridina can be higher. The following is the range I would safely recommend them to be in ...

PH - 6.5 - 7.0

KH - 4-6

GH - 6-7

TDS - 200-250

Temp - 21-23

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On 2/26/2019 at 6:19 AM, jayc said:

KH 9 and pH7 is an unusual combination. KH at 9 should mean that pH should be higher than 7.0. Something is not right.

Please retest KH.

 

Ideally, you would aim for KH 6-7 for RCS, and pH 7.

Thank you for your help ?

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12 hours ago, Aquahobby said:

I tested the water again today, kh wast at 8 and the ph is 7/7.5 what I'm worried is in an earlier thread i saw these water parameters 

Neocaridina (All colour variants of Cherry Shrimp)

PH - 6.4

KH - 0-2

GH - 4-6

TDS - 100-200

Temp - 21-23

 

Are these parameters correct for neocarodina? As the kh gh are usually recommended to be higher no?

Those look more like Caridina parameters to me. JayC are better figures to go by!

Simon

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KH of 9 should be fine, although if pH really is low, I must wonder what's lowering it.


GH is more important with Neos. I've heard of Neos being kept in water with a GH between 3 and 24(?) but around 7-8 is considered ideal.

 

If you can find someone keeping Neos in similar water parameters as you, that works out best. If not, it doesn't hurt to try and match their parameters so you'll have the best chance of success. Also recommended to get juvies, not adults.

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