Jump to content
Macks

Keeping CRS with others?

Recommended Posts

Macks

Hi guys! So, I just got a small batch of crystal red shrimp to join my blue rilli and orange rilli. I’ve been looking stuff up online and getting pretty confused about water parameters... It seems like most resources are saying that Neocaridina need calcium, but then CRS should have really soft water. Does this mean that CRS should be kept with CRS only? Any input would be super helpful, I’m pretty new to keeping shrimp. Thanks! 

Edited by Macks

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
ineke

Hi Macks -you can successfully keep the two types together but you should keep your water parameters at CRS requirements. The Neos will adapt quite easily- they might slow down breeding initially but generally pick up very quickly. The CRS will not thrive in Neo WP's -they might survive but generally it's not recommended. I have posted about this recently on another thread but will show my  mixed tank . 596ea7c3a50bc_IMG_20170511_115953_zpspx2nqeth(1).thumb.JPG.7ea57080c9f07da6a562ce326ee741a9.JPG

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Zoidburg

Mainly what ineke said. 

 

If your tank isn't already set up for Crystals, then it's recommended to get a new tank, get a good buffering substrate that lowers the pH (I don't recommend Fluval) and then allow it to cycle for 3-6 weeks. It can take a while to cycle, and that's okay. The bacteria prefer a higher pH but a tank with low pH will still cycle. You can put a heater in the tank and set it to about 84° to encourage the bacteria growth.

Make sure you use RO water or distilled in the tank and remineralize with GH minerals. Not sure best GH for a Neo/Carid tank, but maybe around 5-6?

 

Once the tank is cycled, do a full water change and then you can drip acclimate the crystals (and Neos - if you only want one tank) into the new tank. If the Neo tank has widely different water parameters (pH, TDS, GH, KH...) compared to the Crystal tank, then drip acclimating may take a while.

 

It's hard to say how well the crystals will do in your Neo tank without knowing what parameters they were raised in, the parameters of your Neo tank, and other details. They generally do breed better and live longer in lower pH with lower GH parameters. Not only that, but color is usually improved, too, in lower pH.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Macks

Thank you both so much for your responses, I think you covered everything I needed to hear. I really appreciate your help! I have a tank cycling as we speak. Unfortunately what I had available to be was the Fluval Spectrum substrate that was leftover from my planted tank. From what I’ve read, I’ll have to replace this and when I do, I’ll get ADA Aquasoil. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Zoidburg

With any luck, the Fluval will be fine. It doesn't usually buffer down to a lower pH so the Crystals may or may not breed in it. Experiences vary.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Macks

Hmmm, okay. If it’s just a matter of breeding, I’m not too worried about it. I would like to breed, but that’s really not a huge deal to me, tbh. Just wanna have them to enjoy and watch. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Anto26

You can definetly keep neos with caridina.

Sent from my ANE-LX3 using Shrimp Keepers Forum mobile app

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now



  • Must Read SKF Articles

  • Register today, ask questions and share your shrimp and fish tank experiences with us!

    Join Our Community!

  • Posts

    • jayc
      Oops did I mix them around?
    • DKC
      Ok then. Will add more plants to try and reduce nitrates.  Thanks Simon and JayC for the pointers and hints. I think the Dino Spit is the Glutaraldehyde and the Dino Pee has the macro and micronutrients. I will leave off the Glutaraldehyde and reduce the dose of the Pee to one third. I am pretty careful with the dosing.  Good news is that there are at least two RCS females still in the tank and looking well. Maybe they went and hid and moulded after the big water change? The surviving  DAE are all looking well.  Anyway will take all your advice on board and do smaller water changes and work out a dripper system.
    • ShrimpNewb
    • beanbag
      jayc's comments on letting remineralized water sit around got me thinking.  I've had pre-mixed up batches of water sitting around for a month or more with no obvious growth.  I asked the Salty Shrimp people about this, but unfortunately they replied back to me in German, and google translate doesn't seem to work too well.  So if anybody knows German, here is their reply: " prinzipiell ist es kein Problem dein mit Bee Shrimp GH+ aufgesalzenes
      Osmosewasser zu lagern, jedoch werden dabei einige Spurenelemente
      verloren gehen. Dies hat sich bei unds allerdings noch nicht als negativ
      herausgestellt, da wir selbst meist eine Menge von ca. 1000l aufgesalzen
      parat haben. "    
    • beanbag
      Even though this isn't the acute cause of your problem, the nitrates are too high.
×