Some sick neons :(

[DemonCat]

HI all - Sorry, I wasn't sure where to post this on the forum. Please feel free to move to a better location if required. 

I have a few neons who have started to look a bit shabby. Neon Tetra Disease? Maybe fin rot?

I'd appreciate any confirmation/clarification. 

I assume I should keep  up water changes and start a treatment. Unfortunately I have no second tank to put them in!

[jayc]

It might not be NTD, since it's also on the tail. NTD is mainly on the body, discolouration and turning whitish. BUT if the fish is sick enough from NTD, it might manifest in other symptoms as well like finrot.

But your Neons look like they might have fungus.

Since you can't do anything to treat NTD, your only hope is that it is not NTD. And instead treat it for fungus / finrot and hope it gets better.

Finger crossed that it is only fungus.

What are your tank parameters?

Temp, pH, TDS.

 

 

 

Edited October 10, 2016 by jayc

[DemonCat]

1 hour ago, jayc said:

It might not be NTD, since it's also on the tail. NTD is mainly on the body, discolouration and turning whitish. BUT if the fish is sick enough from NTD, it might manifest in other symptoms as well like finrot.

But your Neons look like they might have fungus.

Since you can't do anything to treat NTD, your only hope is that it is not NTD. And instead treat it for fungus / finrot and hope it gets better.

Finger crossed that it is only fungus.

What are your tank parameters?

Temp, pH, TDS.

 

 

 

Hi jayc, 

Temp is a steady 22 degrees, pH is bang on. Unknown TDS. 

What do you suggest to treat a fungus? API Melafix or Blue Planet fungus care? I have seen those two in my LFS (I try to avoid it like the plague - it's a proper sad pet shop) which I can pop into after work. 

[jayc]

37 minutes ago, DemonCat said:

Temp is a steady 22 degrees, pH is bang on. Unknown TDS. 

What do you suggest to treat a fungus? API Melafix or Blue Planet fungus care?

Temperature at 22 is good. 

No to API Melafix. Melafix is not for fungal infections, it might agitate the infection even more.

Don't know about Blue Planet range, never used it. Let me read up on the ingredients ...

The Blue Planet Fungus Care uses the usual Acriflavin + Malachite Green combo. But the price !! Seriously? 

if there is nothing else in your sad LFS, then get it. But if you can find something similar, then pick the cheaper one. Anything with Acriflavin+ malachite green will do.

Or any meds with Formalin + Malachite green will also treat finrot/fungus.

Methylene Blue will also treat fungus, but is not as strong as Malachite green/Formalin.

I would pick up something that uses  Formalin + Malachite green, as that treats external parasites as well, covering ich and gill flukes. So it's a multi purpose med.

 

Interestingly, Waterlife Protozin will also do the job on fungus and also claims to cure Neon Tetra Disease. Even though everyone says there is no known cure for an infected fish. Again Waterlife is overpriced if you only bought it for fungus treatments only. You'd only buy this if you really had NTD and had no other alternative treatments to try.

<edit> - BTW I'm moving this to our Fish Health & Care section

http://shrimpkeepersforum.com/forum/forum/135-fish-health-care/

 

Edited October 10, 2016 by jayc

[DemonCat]

Great I will look at the  Acriflavin and/or Formalin + malachite green combos located in the store!!!

Thank you for the information. 

[DemonCat]

Fn@jayc - API pimafix? I grabbed that in the end as that's all they had fungus wise. I hope you may recommend it.

 

They had a no-name malachite formalin solution but it had no instructions or directions so I didn't get that.

Edited October 15, 2016 by DemonCat

[DemonCat]

Have used the pimafix for two weeks now. 

 

Hasn't helped the issue, but hasn't made it much worse either. Fish still have the little marks on their bodies. Doesn't seem to be spreading, but hasn't cleared up either. 

 

Any suggestions on a next step? 

From what I can tell, it has not spread to the white clouds which is good I guess.

[jayc]

On 07/11/2016 at 11:21 AM, DemonCat said:

Any suggestions on a next step? 

Sorry for the late reply. Didn't see this question.

Well, you can try the malachite green/formalin treatment.

[DemonCat]

On 11/17/2016 at 9:09 AM, jayc said:

Sorry for the late reply. Didn't see this question.

Well, you can try the malachite green/formalin treatment.

Not a problem - They didnt make it :( My 6 white clouds and 5 healthy looking neons left in the tank - will wait a fair while before stocking it again. Will avoid neons in the future. 

Thanks for your help :)

[jayc]

1 hour ago, DemonCat said:

They didnt make it

Ah sorry to hear the news.