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KeenShrimp

Guys, I will be the first to admit that I should have bought those Cardinals at the auction last night. My tank is not yet ready.

If a guy on Gumtree raises them in tap water and @JPN07 has bred and adapted them for easier keeping here in Australia,  is there anything else that interested potential keepers should know apart from adding Sulawesi shrimp salt and off we go?

Do you need special rocks or substrate, or specific types of blankets of algae? Do they eat normal shrimp food? They are classified as a very hard shrimp to keep and I would just like to find out why. Do they kick the bucket for the slightest change in water parameters like small water changes? I have looked at their habitat and taken a mental note that they like to hang out on the underside of hanging rocks, but can it really be that easy?

I have seen photos of setups that look like they were staged for National Geographic, and then I have seen For Sale ads where the tanks look more like swamps with a phosphate problem there is so much algae in it, but it is filled to the brim with babies. What works?

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NoGi

I keep mine in tap water but having said that, mine have stalled reproduction at generation 3. Still an absolute newbie at keeping them.

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zn30

Yes I'm with @KeenShrimpI too would have bought them if setup and more importantly registered to bid. Very interested in these shrimp. This info found on various websites suggest trouble free keeping:

Recommended Parameters

PH: 7.2-8.5     GH: 5-10    KH: 3-8   TDS: 150-250 the lower preferred

Temp: 26-28*c some report as high as 29*c also noted if lower than 26*c shrimp become inactive and may result in deaths.

they do depend on stable conditions and algae.

@NoGiwhat is the best substrate seeing they need higher PH is it recommended for coral sand or chips? Filtration best to steer away from UGF as for other shrimp or are UGFs better if using coral chips and sand?

I've got a fair way to go still, yes I do.

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NoGi

No idea about substrate, mine are in inert 1mm pebble.

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zn30

I think after a fair bit of reading I might go with coral sand to keep the PH at the higher level also have plenty of rock for lake chiclids. @Disciple noted in the pics for the auction the tank has smooth 1mm pebble, do you run a UGF?

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43 minutes ago, zn30 said:

I think after a fair bit of reading I might go with coral sand to keep the PH at the higher level also have plenty of rock for lake chiclids. @Disciple noted in the pics for the auction the tank has smooth 1mm pebble, do you run a UGF?

Hello @zn30

I dont keep Sulas and have no experience with them. The Auction lot was not mine but @JPN07.

I dont run UGF in any of my set ups.

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zn30

Thanks @Disciple sorry and thanks for the redirection. I've gone away from UGF due to continued maintenance overkill removing them from my fish tanks as I slowly change setups. 

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anthonyd

Can only comment on the dennerli. They have different requirements than most caridinas but i dont think they are harder. I feed mine a variety of foods that i also feed my other shrimps with. I dont use special rock or substrate but i use the 7.5 sulawesi salt.

Considering the way they are collected and the rough travels the wild caught ones have to go through,  if they were that sensitive we wouldnt have them in our tanks...

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majtan.miso

Best substrate is seachem onyx. They need very effective filtration. Temperature around 28°C, oxygen rich water

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KeenShrimp

Thank you @majtan.miso, what Sulawesi shrimps are you keeping together?

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zn30
11 hours ago, majtan.miso said:

Best substrate is seachem onyx. They need very effective filtration. Temperature around 28°C, oxygen rich water

Thanks @majtan.miso for the above info. Do you use the sand or gravel ? What filtration do you use, UGF in combination with sponge filters and or canister filters?

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http://jungleaquashrimp.com/blog/setting-up-a-cardinal-sulawesi-shrimps-tank-step-by-step-by-riversun/

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Use anything you can from above setup. You may add tylomelania snails and if you really wants to add some fish use neoheterandia elegans. I also use sulawesi shrimp salt 8.5. Conductivity should be from 190 to 240μs as in all sulawesi lakes but generally higher value is not a problem. I also used oxydator and chihiros shrimp

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