Jump to content

New Library Article - SKF Neocaridina davidi Photo Chart


NoGi
 Share

Recommended Posts

Looking interesting.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Where do carbons fit into this? The other charts I see have them as a separate strand to brown/black, but am I right that hey are in the choc/black branch on this one?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

If anyone has the missing pics, high res prefered, please let me know.

@waffle, with my previous colony, carbon rillis descended from my blacks which descended from my chocs.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

6 hours ago, NoGi said:

 

@waffle, with my previous colony, carbon rillis descended from my blacks which descended from my chocs.

That's good to know!! 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

This is actually the reason I opted not to use the breeder marketing terms such as "blue dreams" etc.. in our chart. I rather opted to note the lineage so that you know that blue isn't the same as blue from another line.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • NoGi changed the title to SKF Neocaridina davidi Photo Chart
On 4/30/2016 at 8:41 AM, NoGi said:

This is actually the reason I opted not to use the breeder marketing terms such as "blue dreams" etc.. in our chart. I rather opted to note the lineage so that you know that blue isn't the same as blue from another line.

yeah it makes it a lot easier!

So now we just need blue-from-red photo to complete the current set? blue from red rilli would work yes? 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Looking great @NoGi

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 weeks later...

Looking good.

Sorry to be a pest but I was wondering if the real wild type cherry really carry so much colour and that dark? I know in my own tanks what I call wild type don't tend to have as dark a colour or as good a coverage.

Eg.

P1130110_zps6cwtmghl.jpg

P1130106_zpsmlyijfbq.jpg

 

Sorry about the clarity but it gives you the idea of what I mean about the patchiness of colouration. I do have some with even less colour/ markings but they tend to disappear against any background and kind of take on the surrounding colour like a mirror.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Yeah, it's a bit hard as all we have to fall back on are the results of a coloured variation regressing back to a wild colour. The pic I used was the result of a black cherry being released into a yellow colony. If someone has a pic of one from their natural habitat that would be ideal.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 weeks later...
  • 2 months later...

I like this chart as it is very easy to understand where all the colour variations come from and how they came about, I have one carbon which has a blue hue to the clear parts

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 3 weeks later...

According to this chart, the bloody mary comes from the shoko, not from the chocolate.

Does the "Brown" in the new chart means shoko and chocolate?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 3 months later...

What about snowballs? I've been trying to find info on them but taxonomy changes over time.

Sorry not the best pic. 

Neocaridina cf. zhangjiajiensis var. white ??

IMG_3698.JPG

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 01/07/2017 at 2:14 PM, Zoidburg said:

Neocaridina palmata


"white pearl" in the last chart, left side

Cheers, Yeah I looked at that, just renaming over time gets confusing, is that the current name? 

From my research of them they are a close relative to the N. Davidi, so that chart looks quite complete and correct.

What I've read says they are a colour morph from N. heterapoda, is that the old term for Palmata or something? 

So is this the correct name for snowballs now:

Neocaridina cf. zhangjiajiensis var. white ?

 

Edited by Zebra
Link to comment
Share on other sites

N  cf. zhangjiajiensis = N palmata

N denticulata sinensis = N heteropoda = N davidi


To my knowledge, N palmata and N davidi are the current and correct scientific names, however there are many places that still use the old/incorrect names.


So snowballs would be Neocaridina palmata var. white

 

 

It's also from my understanding that none of the "cherry shrimp" family trees are correct, but they come kind of close. We've still got a lot to learn about them!

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Ah thanks mate, makes a lot more sense now.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 1 year later...

As helpful as pictures are I was wondering if there is a written description of the different colour varieties, much like what would be for say a show dog where desired criteria must be met in order for it to be grand champion worthy or pet quality. I ask because I am seeing many people selling "blue dreams" for example but there seems to be a great deal of difference with regards to darkness of the blue or clarity of the blue. And many of the sellers are either correctly claiming the shrimp are high grade or wrongly duping ( Not all but some and some could be doing it by accident too from not having a definitive accurate description to go by) new buyers who go on to breed said shrimp and sell on the offspring guessing they are high grade because they purchased high grade.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share

  • Join Our Community!

    Register today, ask questions and share your shrimp and fish tank experiences with us!

  • Must Read SKF Articles

  • Posts

    • beanbag
      I don't know if bacteria is the cause.  It seems to be an uncommonly diagnosed problem because most shrimp articles only talk about bacteria infection as "a few shrimp die every day / week"  What can I say, a standard dose of minocycline and erythromycin didn't work to stop it, so not sure if oxytetracycline will work.
    • jayc
      Ah yes. That was the injectable form of oxytetracycline. Each mL of the injectable form contains: 100 mg oxytetracycline HCl, 5.75% w/v magnesium chloride , 6 H2O, 17% v/v water for injection, 1.3% w/v sodium formaldehyde Sulfoxylate as a preservative and q.s. with propylene glycol. Basically, it has additional compositions in it. 1000mg might have been the dose recommended for the injectable oxytetracycline, but if you have the powder form then follow the dosing rates as recommended on your bottle. Hope that clears it up a bit.     As for doxycycline and it's use to treat short antenna ... I cannot comment on whether it will be more effective than oxytetracycline or not. But if you do use it, only try one at a time. Is bacteria even been proven to be the cause of "short antenna disease"?
    • beanbag
      14 April 2015 -  Update based on experiences of one of our SKF members. Unfortunately for this shrimpkeeper it was too late to save these shrimps, but hopefully this experience will help someone else. 250+ shrimp were lost before the bacterial infection was halted.   A vet was consulted and he eventually ended up contacting a senior lecturer of aquatic animal health at University of Adelaide school of veterinary science. He stated that bacterial infections being internal or external are almost always gram negative in aquatics and recommended using oxytetracycline at a dose rate of 1000-2000mg per 40ltr of water.   Dosing method: Oxytetracycline is available in 2 forms. Powder and injectable. The injectable form was used as it is a stronger form. This meant that we could use less to obtain the required dosage.   Dosed straight into the water column at 1000mg per 40ltr of water.
    • jayc
      What?! Can you point me to where you saw that please?   If in doubt, Always follow the directions on the bottle.
    • beanbag
      What is the recommended dosing for oxytetracycline?  The sticky thread has a mention of " 1000mg per 40ltr ", but I don't know if that refers to total amount of powder, or active ingredient percentage. I live in USA, where oxytetracycline is not as common, but I was able to obtain a bottle of powder.  On the bottle, it says [calculated out to] 75 mg / 10 gal, which is a wayyyy lower value.  Also, the manufacturer / distributor won't tell me the fraction of the power that is active ingredient vs filler. This is for a Taiwan Bee shrimp tank with pH 5.5 and Gh 5, in case that matters for the effectiveness of oxytet in these parameters. I also have doxycycline available if that is equivalent / better. It's to treat that "short antenna disease" in one of my tanks that seems to show up once every few months. I've already dosed with Maracyn 1 (erythromycin) and 2 (minocycline) and they didn't seem to work.
×
×
  • Create New...