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This will be the following chart but with actual pics:

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Baccus

Looking interesting.

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waffle

Where do carbons fit into this? The other charts I see have them as a separate strand to brown/black, but am I right that hey are in the choc/black branch on this one?

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NoGi

If anyone has the missing pics, high res prefered, please let me know.

@waffle, with my previous colony, carbon rillis descended from my blacks which descended from my chocs.

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waffle
6 hours ago, NoGi said:

 

@waffle, with my previous colony, carbon rillis descended from my blacks which descended from my chocs.

That's good to know!! 

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NoGi

This is actually the reason I opted not to use the breeder marketing terms such as "blue dreams" etc.. in our chart. I rather opted to note the lineage so that you know that blue isn't the same as blue from another line.

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NoGi

Chart updated with more pics. Are we missing any colours.

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waffle
On 4/30/2016 at 8:41 AM, NoGi said:

This is actually the reason I opted not to use the breeder marketing terms such as "blue dreams" etc.. in our chart. I rather opted to note the lineage so that you know that blue isn't the same as blue from another line.

yeah it makes it a lot easier!

So now we just need blue-from-red photo to complete the current set? blue from red rilli would work yes? 

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Disciple

Looking great @NoGi

 

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Baccus

Looking good.

Sorry to be a pest but I was wondering if the real wild type cherry really carry so much colour and that dark? I know in my own tanks what I call wild type don't tend to have as dark a colour or as good a coverage.

Eg.

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Sorry about the clarity but it gives you the idea of what I mean about the patchiness of colouration. I do have some with even less colour/ markings but they tend to disappear against any background and kind of take on the surrounding colour like a mirror.

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NoGi

Yeah, it's a bit hard as all we have to fall back on are the results of a coloured variation regressing back to a wild colour. The pic I used was the result of a black cherry being released into a yellow colony. If someone has a pic of one from their natural habitat that would be ideal.

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JMGC

Hi is this poster accurate ? 

Best regards

Jorge 

 

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Cheza

I like this chart as it is very easy to understand where all the colour variations come from and how they came about, I have one carbon which has a blue hue to the clear parts

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Matuva

According to this chart, the bloody mary comes from the shoko, not from the chocolate.

Does the "Brown" in the new chart means shoko and chocolate?

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Zebra

What about snowballs? I've been trying to find info on them but taxonomy changes over time.

Sorry not the best pic. 

Neocaridina cf. zhangjiajiensis var. white ??

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Zoidburg

Neocaridina palmata


"white pearl" in the last chart, left side

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Zebra
On 01/07/2017 at 2:14 PM, Zoidburg said:

Neocaridina palmata


"white pearl" in the last chart, left side

Cheers, Yeah I looked at that, just renaming over time gets confusing, is that the current name? 

From my research of them they are a close relative to the N. Davidi, so that chart looks quite complete and correct.

What I've read says they are a colour morph from N. heterapoda, is that the old term for Palmata or something? 

So is this the correct name for snowballs now:

Neocaridina cf. zhangjiajiensis var. white ?

 

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Zoidburg

N  cf. zhangjiajiensis = N palmata

N denticulata sinensis = N heteropoda = N davidi


To my knowledge, N palmata and N davidi are the current and correct scientific names, however there are many places that still use the old/incorrect names.


So snowballs would be Neocaridina palmata var. white

 

 

It's also from my understanding that none of the "cherry shrimp" family trees are correct, but they come kind of close. We've still got a lot to learn about them!

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Zebra

Ah thanks mate, makes a lot more sense now.

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Baccus

As helpful as pictures are I was wondering if there is a written description of the different colour varieties, much like what would be for say a show dog where desired criteria must be met in order for it to be grand champion worthy or pet quality. I ask because I am seeing many people selling "blue dreams" for example but there seems to be a great deal of difference with regards to darkness of the blue or clarity of the blue. And many of the sellers are either correctly claiming the shrimp are high grade or wrongly duping ( Not all but some and some could be doing it by accident too from not having a definitive accurate description to go by) new buyers who go on to breed said shrimp and sell on the offspring guessing they are high grade because they purchased high grade.

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