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  2. Steensj2004

    Aquamaxx 17.1 Gallon Caridina Tank Build

    Wait, one last question. What should I look for in a oregano oil. I ordered one, but I can cancel and add a different one if need be. also, won’t the remaining oil kill the bacteria when I re-add the filter media?
  3. jayc

    Aquamaxx 17.1 Gallon Caridina Tank Build

    Blanch a couple of them. Let's see if we can get the shrimp to eat them.
  4. Steensj2004

    Aquamaxx 17.1 Gallon Caridina Tank Build

    Leaves added. Ordered the Oregano oil!Fingers crossed!!
  5. jayc

    Aquamaxx 17.1 Gallon Caridina Tank Build

    Yes, it is external. That's why I suggested carvocrol. It will work both internally and externally. The oil if soak in food will be eaten to treat internal bacteria. Add some diluted oil into the water column for external treatments. Doses can be found in the Disease and Diagnostics post. Yes. But it's not like using carvocrol oil. Oregano leaves just aid in the process of using carvocrol oil. Give it 3 days after treatment. And note: you might want to add a second dose 2-3 days after the first. So wait until you finish all repeat doses of carvocrol oil before adding the filters back in. In case you didn't pick it up. The source of the info from the site you posted is our very own Diseases and Diagnostics post (see the disclaimer section in the link you provided). The info here is more up to date. You will need to treat the whole tank with Carvocrol oil, if you have a bacterial infection. Just save as much beneficial bacteria as you can before adding the oil. Carvocrol oil is very soluble, so it will mix in the water well. Carvocrol oil isn't cheap, so hopefully we are treating the right ailment. Assuming it is bacterial in nature and not a water parameter issue. As I said, the pictures provided were too low in resolution. Good luck.
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  7. Steensj2004

    Aquamaxx 17.1 Gallon Caridina Tank Build

    I looked at the one here following the original site I posted. I am unable to quarantine to use oregano oil. And isn’t the bacterial shell disease external. It would be nice to attack both.... If it were your tank, how would you attack this? I feel more confident that it is, at least in part, the chitinolytic disease. I could remove the HOB and one of the sponge filter sponges. The sponge I can put into the smaller 5 gallon with the fish to keep it seasoned, while the HOB can simply be turned off. How long would I then wait on the oregano oil to work before adding the filter media’s back in? Hey, I just thought about Something.... I have some organic Greek oregano growing right now in my herb garden. Would those leaves work, and can I add the leaves without killing the filter bacteria in the tank?
  8. jayc

    Aquamaxx 17.1 Gallon Caridina Tank Build

    LOL. Did you read the article properly?🙁 Under the Disclaimer - who is the author? The info I give you is much more up to date than these other sites who have taken a snapshot of the evolving field of treatment for shrimp diseases. I warned those websites, that they need to ensure they maintain the content, as I keep updating the Disease & Diagnostics post. But alas, they copy it once and never remember to return to update it. So our own Disease and Diagnostics post is the source and is actively maintained by me. Carvacrol (aka Oregano oil) will treat bacteria of various types. Chitinolytic disease is just another form of bacteria. Oregano oil when added to food will treat bacteria internally. Oregano oil added to the water will treat bacteria externally, like on the shell/carapace, like in the case of Chitinolytic disease. But take caution with filter bacteria, as with any treatment for bacteria will also impact beneficial filter bacteria. You might want to remove half the media and keep in another tank, just in case. If you can get fresh Oregano leaves, add them into the tank and see if the shrimp will eat it. The Levamisole will work on external bacteria only. It would be very hard getting the shrimp to eat it to treat internal bacteria infections.
  9. jayc

    Here we go again!

    That's what I do when I use rubber (nitrile) gloves. Man, substrate makes a huge difference. Set another tank up beside it with JBL as a test. We are here to help people, so an experiment like this will be very useful. Unfortunately, or fortunately depending on which way you look at it, we don't get Shrimp King substrate here. So I have no experience with it to say if it is good or not.
  10. Steensj2004

    Aquamaxx 17.1 Gallon Caridina Tank Build

    This site : https://www.aquariumcreation.com/blogs/news/freshwater-shrimp-diseases suggests this product for chitinolytic Bacterial disease: https://www.ovedshorseandpetstore.com.au/sykes-big-l-pig-and-poultry thoughts? Wife just texted me and another shrimp is down. That makes 4 in a week. I don’t know how contagious a disease might be.... or should I try one of these bacterial aquarium booster products and a big water change?
  11. Steensj2004

    Here we go again!

    Man. I just lost another shrimp too. Wife messaged me and said another one is down. It’s so frustrating because I can’t find anything that could be causing it.. I have a decent population going so losing several isn’t the end of the world, but, will it continue.
  12. sdlTBfanUK

    Here we go again!

    Thanks for the reply. I will wash the outside of the gloves a couple of times if I do go that route so that should remove any powder residue? There are no Ammonia/nitrite/nitrate 10 (test starts at that so may be 0) readings and other parameters are TDS 142, Ph6, Gh6, Kh0 (1 drop), temp 22! All I can come up with is as you say to do a large water change in case there may be/been traces of something toxic. Today, I did the tank before I did some washing just in case it was related to something on my hands. I will get some rubber gloves and give those a go if no one thinks they will cause any problems and see how it goes for a few weeks I guess? Then I will review whether it is worth trying one last group, I have a few survivors left in the interim? I doubt that the substrate can be the problem but the other tanks I used JBL and everything went so much better and are very green and plants much healthier! Thanks for taking the time to reply. Hope yours are all doing well? Simon
  13. beanbag

    Here we go again!

    Mark's Shrimp Tanks didn't like the Shrimp King substrate either, btw. Some gloves have powder residue on the outside, so I don't recommend using them. What parameters did you test? I can only think of two possibilities: 1) Substrate is leeching something bad into the water. How many water changes have you done? Maybe time to do more to "dilute" the poison out. 2) Bacterial environment is not right - maybe wastes not getting converted over into nitrates for the plants?
  14. Steensj2004

    Aquamaxx 17.1 Gallon Caridina Tank Build

    Ammonia, nitrites and nitrates are all zero. I’ve tested them over and over hoping that it was one of those so I can combat it. I considered it possibly Chitinolytic bacterial disease, but I don’t know. It really looks more pink in person than brown, this camera just stinks.... I can’t seem to tell if if their shells are pitted. It definitely seems to be in the shell. Would oregano oil fix chitinolytic bacterial? How does one treat with it?
  15. sdlTBfanUK

    Aquamaxx 17.1 Gallon Caridina Tank Build

    So sorry you are having this problem, believe me you aren't alone in having problems. It doesn't surprise me that it is the adults that are the problem and the babies aren't affected, as mentioned before. The babies have only lived and been born in the water so will be happier and used to the water and not had the stress the purchased ones have? I tried blowing the pictures up and it looked like it was a light brown colour rather than red, and on the shell (not underneath/flesh - you wouldn't be able to see the flesh anyway????), difficult to see though as very blurred when blown up, but does that sound right? If it is on the shell has it pitted the surface or is that still smooth/shiny? Simon
  16. sdlTBfanUK

    Here we go again!

    Had a thought last night? Are rubber gloves safe for using in shrimp tanks, has anyone tried this? If so that will work well going forward! Surely I can't have missed such an easy solution - that is worrying? I know some people can have a reaction to rubber and I 'believe' it releases some sort of protein maybe so thats why I ask? If this last ditched try (and believe me it is) doesn't work I will probably get dwarf rasboras (spotted/emerald/chilli/mosqyuito) as a change and they seem to like the lower Ph etc of the tank so the tank shouldn't need much/any tweeking! Any thoughts from anyone please say now as this is definitely LAST chance for taiwan bees so it will be too late if advice not given NOW/SOON - don't hold back!!! I will probably change 50% water on sunday as I have company here that can get roped in to lugging the water around..................... Simon
  17. jayc

    Aquamaxx 17.1 Gallon Caridina Tank Build

    Sorry to hear that. I didn't want to jump to conclusions until I saw a higher res picture. But ... red under the shell of shrimps could indicate an internal infection. And the shrimps might be fighting a disease in the tank, or high ammonia levels. Since this is a mature tank and you say your ammonia levels are zero, it might mean they have a bacterial infection. I can't be 100% sure of course being no where near the tank. If it is a bacterial infection, try treating with Carvacrol (Oregano oil), you can read about it in the Disease and Diagnostics thread.
  18. Steensj2004

    Aquamaxx 17.1 Gallon Caridina Tank Build

    Another mother-bleeping dead adult. I have no idea what’s going on. You’d think all these micro sized babies would be dying too.... I don’t get it.
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  20. sdlTBfanUK

    Here we go again!

    This really isn't going well this time. I am not really sure why either? The plants are nowhere as green and lush as the other tanks and the shrimps seem to be dying off slowly despite all parameters being perfect! The different substrate must be part of this but as it is shrimpking I can't believe it can be the main problem! After a lot of considering the only thing I can come up with is I tend to do this tank the same day as I do washing so I 'MAY' be contaminating the water if I have some washing product residue on my hands but this is really clutching at straws - it is the only thing I can come up with and a possibility............... I have left a note next to the tank to remind me for the future! I am thinking of changing 50% of the water and 1 of the 2 sponges at the weekend and running the tank for a few weeks then trying One last time a new batch of taiwan bee shrimps, and at least they will be in situ by the end of our winter so they should readily breed this lot? I probably have just under 10 shrimps left. Any advice appreciated on what they would do? I have a few days to mull it all over? Simon
  21. Steensj2004

    Aquamaxx 17.1 Gallon Caridina Tank Build

    Two weeks ago on the fert. no, it’s only on the upper side along the back, and some along the sides. I want to upload better pictures but this is confusing. It won’t let me.... the threshold for file size is never the same...
  22. sdlTBfanUK

    Aquamaxx 17.1 Gallon Caridina Tank Build

    When did you last use the ferts? If you are doing that once a month and that was within the last week it may be that? It could be the eggs in the saddle if the shell is a bit transparent, does it just appear in that area? Simon
  23. Steensj2004

    Aquamaxx 17.1 Gallon Caridina Tank Build

    I will try, this phone doesn’t do great pictures. I started using on squirt a month, just for the iron. The red plead plants were suffering. Heater is operating normally, and I don’t THINK I did anything to the tank to cause introduction of something to kill them. I suppose I’m being too picky as it was clearly two of the older, originally purchased adult shrimp. The marking wasn’t originally there. It seems to be on females, and only when they are berried. It then never goes away.
  24. sdlTBfanUK

    Aquamaxx 17.1 Gallon Caridina Tank Build

    I have been through this thread. You stopped using ferts and it sounds like you have since started again? If you do feed fresh produce it MUST be 'organic'. I also think that when I started before, the shrimps that were bought to start with gradually died off quicker than you would think they would, but I didn't know what age they were when they died. The ones born in the tank did way better as they had never been stressed with shipping and changing water from different tanks etc I ASSUMED! I think they only live 18 months anyway? I wouldn't be over worried as your colony is ever growing and the new born were born in your tank so will be used to the water they are in and not experienced any of the stress the purchased ones have. Don't keep changing things though as they don't like that and you have been doing a lot of fine tuning since you set up this tank so the early shrimps have been through a lot? The photos are too small to be able to see! Did you do anything a few days before sunday when the other died that may give a clue? You say some have the marking, are you sure that that just isn't their colour and they aren't HIGHEST grade? Simon ps. Check your heater isn't stuck on?
  25. jayc

    Aquamaxx 17.1 Gallon Caridina Tank Build

    No, not for shell colour change. Check ammonia for the unexplained deaths. Are you able to post a high res version of the first photo? Zoom it right into the shrimp. I don't need to see the background or the rocks.
  26. Steensj2004

    Aquamaxx 17.1 Gallon Caridina Tank Build

    For the shell color change? Ammonia is at zero. The shell color change started some time ago, I think I mentioned it previously.
  27. Steensj2004

    Aquamaxx 17.1 Gallon Caridina Tank Build

    Another dead, but mostly consumed shrimp. I don’t get it. Water looks great, nothing g that I can see wrong. That’s two in a week. I have seen some of the red crystals have a red tint on their white stripes. What could that be(see pic) Everyone seems healthy. PH:6.2 GH:6-7 KH:0 TDS: 160 Temp:73F On a positive......Newest batch of shrimp are large enough to see easily, I could about a dozen! Another pic of the color change. I’m concerned it’s a disease..... but I can’t find anything about it online.
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